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Old 03-27-2007, 04:13 PM   #1
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I have a degree in Elementary Education that I'll never use. Anyone want to buy it from me? It's at a good price and I can discount it further since it was obtained in New Jersey!
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:19 PM   #2
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Evolution thru natural selection counts for human beings too.

Every decision that you've made up to this point, have led you to this point.
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:41 PM   #3
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The US should go to war as a truly last resort.

When the US must go to war, stick with what we do well. That means invade, take care of the reason for the invasion, and get the hell out. We don't have an obligation to rebuild. That only encourages countries to provoke us to invade, because they want new infrastructure. If the problem returns, or if another problem pops up, invade again - hell, we're good at it, aren't we? Then get the hell out before any military personnel get killed.
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Old 03-28-2007, 02:47 AM   #4
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Evolution thru natural selection counts for human beings too.

Every decision that you've made up to this point, have led you to this point.
There are plenty of times when you are subject to the decisions of others, where you have absolutely no control, that will lead you to this point.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:14 AM   #5
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There are plenty of times when you are subject to the decisions of others, where you have absolutely no control, that will lead you to this point.
That's pretty rare, though I'll concede that sometimes you have very little control. Do you have an example?
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:18 AM   #6
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That's pretty rare, though I'll concede that sometimes you have very little control. Do you have an example?
Where and when and to whom you were born?
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:23 AM   #7
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That's pretty rare, though I'll concede that sometimes you have very little control. Do you have an example?
When the company you work for is sold to a rival company, making the Directors millionaires and leaving you out of a job.

I had a choice whether to start that job, but no choice or control over how I left it.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:59 PM   #8
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That's pretty rare, though I'll concede that sometimes you have very little control. Do you have an example?
Think about it next time they slip the handcuffs on and you have no idea why.
Or you spend thirty years building a business and the government passes a law that puts you out of business.
How about when your spouse goes out for a pack of smokes and never comes back.
Or when your mother dips you in protection, all but your heel.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:05 AM   #9
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:12 AM   #10
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Think about it next time they slip the handcuffs on and you have no idea why.
Or you spend thirty years building a business and the government passes a law that puts you out of business.
How about when your spouse goes out for a pack of smokes and never comes back.
Or when your mother dips you in protection, all but your heel.
Are you abdicating responsibilty for those things? Is it that God works in mysterious ways? Or coincidence? Shit happens?

You did have some influence in all those things. Your choices put you there. It may have not worked according to plan, but you did make choices, and those choices had those results.
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Old 03-29-2007, 05:49 PM   #11
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Are you abdicating responsibilty for those things? Is it that God works in mysterious ways? Or coincidence? Shit happens?

You did have some influence in all those things. Your choices put you there. It may have not worked according to plan, but you did make choices, and those choices had those results.
Oh of course, why didn't I see that. If he hadn't chosen to breath this morning he wouldn't have died this afternoon. It's so clear.

Well then, by your logic, I didn't make the decision to be born so everything that happens to me is someone else's fault.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:17 AM   #12
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Evolution thru natural selection counts for human beings too.

Every decision that you've made up to this point, have led you to this point.
No way! God made us what we are, and controls use completely - it says so in a musem in Kentuccky! [/sarcasm]
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Old 03-28-2007, 12:17 PM   #13
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Every decision that you've made up to this point, have led you to this point.
Other than the example of being born, Jinx's point is valid. I chose the job, putting myself in a position to lose it when it was taken over. I chose to drive on that road, at that time. It's not that I controlled what happened, but my decisions put me there.
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