Affirmative Action Unnecessary?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

... remove color from the equation all together and promote solely on merit...

I agree. Now, since we all know that it doesn't happen , what's your solution? What can we do to make that happen?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I agree. Now, since we all know that it doesn't happen , what's your solution? What can we do to make that happen?

I would suggest taking all pictures and names off applications. Give them a number. This will allow all kinds of people to make it through any subjective process people use for hiring, promotion, or school admission.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I would suggest taking all pictures and names off applications. Give them a number. This will allow all kinds of people to make it through any subjective process people use for hiring, promotion, or school admission.

Ok, then. Make it so.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I would suggest taking all pictures and names off applications. Give them a number. This will allow all kinds of people to make it through any subjective process people use for hiring, promotion, or school admission.

Wait... I just heard from a minority who didn't have to put his name or picture on an application. When he was interviewed, though, the company representative saw that he is a minority, and disqualified him from the job prospect.

How can we make sure that minorities are not discriminated against?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Wait... I just heard from a minority who didn't have to put his name or picture on an application. When he was interviewed, though, the company representative saw that he is a minority, and disqualified him from the job prospect.

How can we make sure that minorities are not discriminated against?

You can't. Advancement and employment by merit. Nothing else. Why do you think I should hire someone who has a highschool diploma over a person who has a college degree beacause the person with the diploma is black? That is the problem we have now under AA. Unqualified minorities in jobs as tokens so an organization can stand up and say look I hired a minority. How do you prevent that? People who are fully and more importantly more qualified for jobs and schools are pushed aside in the name of political correctness. I ain't buying it and I do not support it.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You can't. Advancement and employment by merit. Nothing else. Why do you think I should hire someone who has a highschool diploma over a person who has a college degree beacause the person with the diploma is black? That is the problem we have now under AA. Unqualified minorities in jobs as tokens so an organization can stand up and say look I hired a minority. How do you prevent that? People who are fully and more importantly more qualified for jobs and schools are pushed aside in the name of political correctness. I ain't buying it and I do not support it.

Can you show ANY evidence that less qualified minorities being hired or promoted is prevalent? I'm sure it happens, (we read about it in the conservative biased media) but is it really a significant issue? How often does it really happen?

More often, a white person with a highschool diploma is hired over a minority with a college degree.

You can't make a playing field level just by saying that's the way it should be. Racists and predjudiced "hirers" and "promoters" will merely continue what they've been doing - discriminating against minorities.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

You can't make a playing field level just by saying that's the way it should be. Racists and predjudiced "hirers" and "promoters" will merely continue what they've been doing - discriminating against minorities.

Ok, tell me how you are going to ensure that people are not hiring minorities just to hire them? Because that is the situation we have created. So how do we fix it? How do you stop reverse discrimination from occuring? I have seen it first hand in the military. The people who complained are ignored. The minority boards believe that there is no such a thing as reverse discrimination. Ask any of the black scholars and they will tell you that it cannot even exist. How do you fix this. PUSH and Jessie Jacksons outfit have perfected the minority arm twisting and extortion to ensure that minorities get contracts, even when they may not have been the best choice. There are numerous examples in the press. Kids being denied admission to State owned universities. Firemen being promoted ahead of peers because they are a minority. Where does the PC crap end and merit begin. IMHO the glass ceiling is getting thicker with every PC action like this.