Which is worse, booze or pot? - Page 6

wolf · 03-20-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

When I worked on the ranch I drank more than that before noon.

The key is that input needs to exceed output for there to be a problem ... if you're sweating or peeing out an equal volume of your intake, you'll maintain homeostasis. Too much output, too little input, dehydration. Too much input, too little output, water intoxication and your blood chemistry becomes too dilute to sustain bodily functioning.

piercehawkeye45 · 03-20-2007, 03:18 PM

Hunglikejesus- I think this thread is identifying the negative effects of both drugs and are getting us to subconsciously wonder why one is legal and one isn't.

Also, just because one has better positive effects doesn't mean that it is also better for society. Both heroine and Advil can cause pain relief and heroine is much better at it but heroine is also much worse for society and that individual.

03-20-2007, 03:34 PM

Marijuana is not bad for society.

HungLikeJesus · 03-20-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Hunglikejesus- I think this thread is identifying the negative effects of both drugs and are getting us to subconsciously wonder why one is legal and one isn't.

Also, just because one has better positive effects doesn't mean that it is also better for society. Both heroine and Advil can cause pain relief and heroine is much better at it but heroine is also much worse for society and that individual.

Piercehawkeye,
You are right, I should have used a smiley. I was just pointing out that question design can lead to biased poll results.

Though reviewing the original question, I noticed this:

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

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I've always felt that pot was better for the individual and society.
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What do you think?

Kitsune · 03-20-2007, 03:57 PM

Alcohol.

I have to ask: how frequently/how much pot do you have to smoke in order to "smoke yourself stupid"? How bad of an addict do you have to be in order to have the perpetual delayed speech, the permanent "lost" gaze, and the constant need to fill conversational gaps with "uhhhh...."?

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Everything in moderation. That's my motto.

Moderation in moderation! That's my motto.

03-20-2007, 04:09 PM

You cannot do permanent harm with pot, you cannot "OD" on pot, urban myths.

Spexxvet · 03-20-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

Alcohol.

I have to ask: how frequently/how much pot do you have to smoke in order to "smoke yourself stupid"? How bad of an addict do you have to be in order to have the perpetual delayed speech, the permanent "lost" gaze, and the constant need to fill conversational gaps with "uhhhh...."?

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Some people don't need uhhhh.... to uhhhhh... smoke at all.... to.... uhhhh..... what was the question?

Kitsune · 03-20-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

You cannot do permanent harm with pot, you cannot "OD" on pot, urban myths.

Possibly, although it is pretty easy to figure out who is a "heavy user" by simply watching or verbally interacting with them. It might not be permanent but there is, at the very least, an effect that lingers well beyond the intended one.

Undertoad · 03-20-2007, 05:10 PM

Some people simply zone out, while others are more active in thought while high. My guess is that the active people don't lose/scatter brain pathways.

elSicomoro · 03-20-2007, 05:20 PM

I giggle a lot and tend to pass out...ah, the good ol' days...

piercehawkeye45 · 03-20-2007, 05:26 PM

Better of two evils maybe Hung? (not sarcastic) I really don't know because I didn't make it but I am assuming this only has to do with the negative affects of the two drugs.

Happy Monkey · 03-20-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

Possibly, although it is pretty easy to figure out who is a "heavy user" by simply watching or verbally interacting with them. It might not be permanent but there is, at the very least, an effect that lingers well beyond the intended one.

Sounds like cholesterol...

03-20-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

Possibly, although it is pretty easy to figure out who is a "heavy user" by simply watching or verbally interacting with them. It might not be permanent but there is, at the very least, an effect that lingers well beyond the intended one.

The brain has an amazing ability to heal itself even from those drugs that do harm it. Even from heavy meth use the brain will be back to normal dopamine production within a year. Marijuana does not kill brain cells or inhibit production of any hormones. If someone has retarded their social skills through isolation and lack of education you may want to lay that at the door of one aspect of their life, I put it where it truly lies, choice... unless they were born limited. Then marijuana use would not have made a difference.
As stated by another here, the larger town next to me has a city planner, someone I know, who smokes daily, and has since his teens. One of the most articulate, intelligent and outgoing men I have ever known.
The "pot-head" being created by smoking is a myth and always has been.
Hell, I have known people who were competative bodybuilders (before the days of rampant testing) who smoked before they worked out. Not a choice I would have made, but to each their own. He said it helped him to calm down and relax.

Kagen4o4 · 03-20-2007, 06:08 PM

the people i know that smoke pot a lot cant seem to get along with people that aren't smoking.
i also know a couple of guys that love their beer and other alcohol and are highly competitive triathletes.

maybe i should be putting my thoughts in the "unpopular opinions" thread?

Toymented · 03-20-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

That is ridiculous, there is no equivalency.

Sorry you can't see it. Do you fear being labeled?

View Poll Results: Which is worse for an individual and society?
Alcohol	34	91.89%
Marijuana	3	8.11%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

03-20-2007, 06:08 PM	#89
Kagen4o4 The Sheriff of Nothingland Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 1,794	the people i know that smoke pot a lot cant seem to get along with people that aren't smoking. i also know a couple of guys that love their beer and other alcohol and are highly competitive triathletes. maybe i should be putting my thoughts in the "unpopular opinions" thread? __________________ something we both can enjoy??

03-20-2007, 03:18 PM	#77
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Hunglikejesus- I think this thread is identifying the negative effects of both drugs and are getting us to subconsciously wonder why one is legal and one isn't. Also, just because one has better positive effects doesn't mean that it is also better for society. Both heroine and Advil can cause pain relief and heroine is much better at it but heroine is also much worse for society and that individual.

03-20-2007, 03:34 PM	#78
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Marijuana is not bad for society.

03-20-2007, 04:09 PM	#81
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	You cannot do permanent harm with pot, you cannot "OD" on pot, urban myths.

03-20-2007, 05:10 PM	#84
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Some people simply zone out, while others are more active in thought while high. My guess is that the active people don't lose/scatter brain pathways.

03-20-2007, 05:20 PM	#85
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I giggle a lot and tend to pass out...ah, the good ol' days...

03-20-2007, 05:26 PM	#86
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Better of two evils maybe Hung? (not sarcastic) I really don't know because I didn't make it but I am assuming this only has to do with the negative affects of the two drugs.

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