Which is worse, booze or pot?

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Kagen4o4
and if you make pot socially acceptable people wont stop, more people will take it up and you'll have a world full of stoners.

In Amsterdam, they really don't have much of a problem with pot. About the biggest problem they have is people visiting from countries where it is still prohibited and going kid-in-a-sweetshop-crazy on the weed. The locals are a lot less excitable about it.

[busterb]

What's the difference between a drunk and a junkie?

They'll both steal your billfold.

But the junkie will help you hunt it.
bb 75

[DanaC]

define junkie.

[busterb]

Originally Posted by DanaC

define junkie.

Junkie
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The most common term of the word junkie (or junky) is to describe a drug addict. Also, people enthusiastic about any specific thing sometimes call themselves junkies (as in the term "science fiction junkie" or "political junkie").

Heroin has the street name "junk", which would offer an explanation of the word "junkie".

[DanaC]

Therefore it doesn't really apply in a discussion about pot and alcohol.

[busterb]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Therefore it doesn't really apply in a discussion about pot and alcohol.

Notice the lame smilie below the post?

[piercehawkeye45]

Hunglikejesus- I think this thread is identifying the negative effects of both drugs and are getting us to subconsciously wonder why one is legal and one isn't.

Also, just because one has better positive effects doesn't mean that it is also better for society. Both heroine and Advil can cause pain relief and heroine is much better at it but heroine is also much worse for society and that individual.

Marijuana is not bad for society.

[HungLikeJesus]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Hunglikejesus- I think this thread is identifying the negative effects of both drugs and are getting us to subconsciously wonder why one is legal and one isn't.

Also, just because one has better positive effects doesn't mean that it is also better for society. Both heroine and Advil can cause pain relief and heroine is much better at it but heroine is also much worse for society and that individual.

Piercehawkeye,
You are right, I should have used a smiley. I was just pointing out that question design can lead to biased poll results.

Though reviewing the original question, I noticed this:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

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I've always felt that pot was better for the individual and society.
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What do you think?

You cannot do permanent harm with pot, you cannot "OD" on pot, urban myths.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

You cannot do permanent harm with pot, you cannot "OD" on pot, urban myths.

Possibly, although it is pretty easy to figure out who is a "heavy user" by simply watching or verbally interacting with them. It might not be permanent but there is, at the very least, an effect that lingers well beyond the intended one.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Possibly, although it is pretty easy to figure out who is a "heavy user" by simply watching or verbally interacting with them. It might not be permanent but there is, at the very least, an effect that lingers well beyond the intended one.

Sounds like cholesterol...

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Possibly, although it is pretty easy to figure out who is a "heavy user" by simply watching or verbally interacting with them. It might not be permanent but there is, at the very least, an effect that lingers well beyond the intended one.

The brain has an amazing ability to heal itself even from those drugs that do harm it. Even from heavy meth use the brain will be back to normal dopamine production within a year. Marijuana does not kill brain cells or inhibit production of any hormones. If someone has retarded their social skills through isolation and lack of education you may want to lay that at the door of one aspect of their life, I put it where it truly lies, choice... unless they were born limited. Then marijuana use would not have made a difference.
As stated by another here, the larger town next to me has a city planner, someone I know, who smokes daily, and has since his teens. One of the most articulate, intelligent and outgoing men I have ever known.
The "pot-head" being created by smoking is a myth and always has been.
Hell, I have known people who were competative bodybuilders (before the days of rampant testing) who smoked before they worked out. Not a choice I would have made, but to each their own. He said it helped him to calm down and relax.

[Toymented]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

The brain has an amazing ability to heal itself even from those drugs that do harm it. Even from heavy meth use the brain will be back to normal dopamine production within a year. Marijuana does not kill brain cells or inhibit production of any hormones. If someone has retarded their social skills through isolation and lack of education you may want to lay that at the door of one aspect of their life, I put it where it truly lies, choice... unless they were born limited. Then marijuana use would not have made a difference.
As stated by another here, the larger town next to me has a city planner, someone I know, who smokes daily, and has since his teens. One of the most articulate, intelligent and outgoing men I have ever known.
The "pot-head" being created by smoking is a myth and always has been.
Hell, I have known people who were competative bodybuilders (before the days of rampant testing) who smoked before they worked out. Not a choice I would have made, but to each their own. He said it helped him to calm down and relax.

So you recommend it and ascribe benefit?

Originally Posted by Toymented

Sorry you can't see it. Do you fear being labeled?

Not remotely, people that do that are ignorant and should be ignored.

Originally Posted by Toymented

So you recommend it and ascribe benefit?

Depends on the individual, how and why they use it.
For me, I use it for medical benefit. Due to my pain level I do not get high off of it, so yes, for that absolutely. There are days that go by when I could not eat without it. It also reduces muscle spasms drastically for me and affects of nerve damage.

As for recreational use, it is very relaxing and fun and does not have the lasting negative affects that alcohol has. Between the two there is no choice IMO. Though this is no longer an option for me and I had long stopped using it for that when I became very ill, I never felt it was a bad thing.

As for the above statement, there is nothing in marijuana that is physically addictive. Some may become mentally dependent on it, but they would become so on something anyway.