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Old 03-12-2007, 08:24 PM   #1
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"People" are idiots.
If you choose not to reason, you are an animal.
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:38 PM   #2
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"People" are idiots.
If you choose not to reason, you are an animal.
Exactly what happens when extremists create so much animosity that it becomes difficult for the intelligent people to remain as moderates. That is what has happened in Israel to destroy the Oslo Accords. That is what happened when American extremists germander election districts so that only extremists can get elected. That is what happened when Hitler disparaged the bourgeois and intelligencia to obtain power. That is what Karl Rove has been so good at to make the lesser intelligent Americans even promote lies characterized by phrases such as "Freedom Fries".

Those with intelligence should have seen the expression "We are where we are" means - that we must destroy ourselves because that is what we are doing. And yet America is now become so dominated by extremist rhetoric (Limbaugh lies and some foolishly think Fox News is news) that ... well how many knew about soldiers lying in their own urine in Walter Reed ... known this almost a month ago. That too is no longer important. More important is the political agenda attached to that fact. So instead we deny it or blame it on the Army.

As if those enlisted men brought those dog collars with them to Abu Ghriad.
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:50 PM   #3
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"People" are idiots.
If you choose not to reason, you are an animal.
You assume that two people reasoning will come to the same conclusion. Not so. When reasoning, you take all the facts you can get, then apply reason and prejudice to come to a conclusion

Prejudice?.. that's not reasoning!

Sure is, reasoning means putting the facts together, but your experience, background and opinion, that's prejudice, causes you to weigh the facts differently.
While its true some facts are more important, and giving them all the same importance is wrong, just how you weigh them, rank them, depends on prejudice.
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Old 03-13-2007, 08:29 PM   #4
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You assume that two people reasoning will come to the same conclusion. Not so. When reasoning, you take all the facts you can get, then apply reason and prejudice to come to a conclusion

Prejudice?.. that's not reasoning!

Sure is, reasoning means putting the facts together, but your experience, background and opinion, that's prejudice, causes you to weigh the facts differently.
While its true some facts are more important, and giving them all the same importance is wrong, just how you weigh them, rank them, depends on prejudice.
How did you come to the conclusion that I made that assumption?
That is a cool crystal ball ya' got there!
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Old 03-15-2007, 08:25 AM   #5
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How did you come to the conclusion that I made that assumption?
That is a cool crystal ball ya' got there!
Because you accuse people that don't agree with you of not reasoning.
That makes for a crystal clear ball.
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Old 03-15-2007, 06:46 PM   #6
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Because you accuse people that don't agree with you of not reasoning.
That makes for a crystal clear ball.
I never stated that in my post.
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