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Old 03-11-2007, 07:50 PM   #1
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From CBSMarketWatch on 9 Mar 2007:
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Tech giants' lobbying effort at a crucial turning point
Allied Microsoft-Google group sets key test in bid for free U.S. Internet access

MSFT prototype, delivered on behalf of the group, is a wireless device that could provide the public with free and more widespread access to the Web instead of relying on networks owned by big telecom and cable firms.

That breakthrough, tapping into an unused part of the nation's airwaves, is politically charged because it threatens to shift the Internet-access business away from telecom and cable companies that are historically well-connected in Washington, throwing open the field to a brand new batch of competitors. ...

The telephone companies are terrified they'll lose 40% of their wireless minutes, because you'll be able to connect from work or home and bypass their wireless networks," said J.H. Snider, research director of the wireless future program at the New America Foundation, a Washington-based policy institute that has long advocated to allow use of white spaces.
Every Congressman in PA gets a 'contribution' from both Verizon and Comcast so that WiFi - as Earthlink has installed in Philadelphia - cannot be installed in any other PA city. Net neutrality?
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Officially, the telecom companies and other established Net-service providers stress that they're less concerned about new competition than they are about preventing interference in their service quality.
And officially that is a load of bull.
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Old 03-12-2007, 05:30 AM   #2
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:47 PM   #3
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From ComputerWorld of 12 Mar 2007:
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Comcast: We'll blackball big downloaders with no warning
Comcast has begun canceling the accounts of people who perform lots of downloads, but the ISP refuses to reveal exactly what its download limits are. The Boston Globe {of 12 Mar 2007 Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users } reports that an increasing number of users are kicked off of Comcast for exceeding bandwidth limits. What are those limits exactly...or even approximately? Don't bother asking, because if you do, you'll feel you ended up in a Kafka novel.

According to the Globe, Amanda Lee of Cambridge, MA received a call from Comcast, warning her that she had to cut back on her downloading, or else the ISP would cancel her account for a year. Lee wanted to know how much she could download, so asked what the limit was.

The Globe reports, "When she asked what the download limit was, she was told there was no limit, that she was just downloading too much."

Then, one month later, he account was canceled for -- you guessed it -- exceeding the download limits, even though Comcast refused to tell her what those limits were.
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:27 PM   #4
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It'll continue until enough people take them to court.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:18 AM   #5
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It'll continue until enough people take them to court.
From the NY Times of 28 Mar 2008 - or about 12 months after Bruce posted this:
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Comcast Adjusts Way It Manages Internet Traffic
Comcast ... said on Thursday that it would take a more equitable approach toward managing the ever-expanding flow of Web traffic on its network.

The cable company ... has been under relentless pressure from the Federal Communications Commission and public interest groups after media reports last year that it was blocking some Internet traffic of customers who used online software based on the popular peer-to-peer BitTorrent protocol.

Comcast said it would change its fundamental approach to playing Internet traffic cop. Instead of interfering with specific online applications, it will manage traffic by slowing the Internet speeds of its most bandwidth-hogging users when traffic is busiest. ...

The change was part of an announcement by Comcast on Thursday that it had been working with BitTorrent ...

The companies said they have been working together for the last year on ways to optimize BitTorrent applications for the Comcast network. They said they would publish their findings to Web forums and standards groups so that other software makers, peer-to-peer services and I.S.P.’s could adopt them. ...

Comcast and BitTorrent said their collaboration showed the corrective power of the market and obviated the need for further federal oversight. But in a public statement, the commission chairman, Kevin J. Martin, vowed continued scrutiny and expressed concern that the old filtering practice would continue at least through the end of the year.

Marvin Ammori, general counsel at Free Press, ... “The only reason Comcast came to the table and made a deal with BitTorrent is because of the unrelenting pressure,” he said.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:52 AM   #6
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From the BBC of 18 April 2008:
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Action urged to keep net neutral
The meeting was called by the FCC in reaction to the news that US net firm Comcast had been exposed as managing traffic by stopping some of its 13m customers uploading files to BitTorrent and other peer-to-peer networks.

The FCC has started a formal investigation to see if Comcast merits a fine for its actions.

In response to the publicity surrounding its actions, Comcast has said it would change its policy.
A fast bit rate does not necessary mean a fast packet rate.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:40 PM   #7
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From the Washington Post of 23 Apr 2008:
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Comcast's Network Practices Need Scrutiny, FCC Chief Says
Federal Communications Commission Chairman Kevin J. Martin ... said in his testimony that it appeared Comcast had singled out content for delay over its network, even when the network may not have been congested with overuse. He also said he doubted the company's statements that it would stop some of its practices by the end of the year.
Why does Comcast just not turn off the software today? Why wait 8 months to stop filtering network content?
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The entertainment industry, meanwhile, is divided on net neutrality. Yesterday's panel included Hollywood writers and actors who testified in favor of regulations that would prevent media companies and cable and telecommunications carriers from controlling content over the Internet networks.

"The Internet holds incredible potential to resurrect a vibrant industry of independent creators with free access to, and distribution of . . . content," Patric M. Verrone, president of the Writers Guild of America, West, said in his testimony yesterday.

But groups such as the Songwriters Guild of America have argued against net neutrality, saying a network without controls would effectively enable rampant piracy and copyright infringement.
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:59 AM   #8
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From the NY Times of 26 Feb 2008:
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F.C.C. Weighing Limits on Slowing Web Traffic
The head of the Federal Communications Commission and other senior officials said on Monday that they were considering taking steps to discourage cable and telephone companies from delaying the downloads and uploads of heavy Internet users. ...

Comcast, the nation’s largest cable company, has been the subject of a complaint after it acknowledged that it slowed down some Internet traffic of BitTorrent, a file-sharing service, because of heavy use of video-sharing applications.
If you are a heavy downloader on Comcast (ie listen to radio webcasts constantly), then Comcast may terminate your service without any explanation. This has been reported on NPR. If three users consume that much bandwidth, then the other 24 users who share the same coaxial cable will suffer diminished service. Comcast's solution is reported as to terminate heavy user service.

In a free market, Comcast would simply increase bandwidth or make other plans for the so many more who will be demanding more of the internet. Instead, Comcast suggests surcharges for services such as Google.

Earlier in this thread was software purchased by Comcast that can identify packets so as to delay them. Skype was a possible target cited by IEEE Spectrum. NY Times identifies another target - BitTorrent.
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Old 03-02-2008, 11:00 PM   #9
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:51 AM   #10
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And the reason why for both....

TW,

The reason why for Skype: They already provide VOIP services and don't want to provide any space for competition.

The reason why for BitTorrent: They're getting major pressure from the MPAA and RIAA over pirated movies. Even though there are legit uses for BitTorrent, I figure at least 90% of it is for transmitting pirated software and movies.

The reason why for all of this, instead of spending money on technology: MBAs that underestimate the will of people to avoid paying for intangible things and get around artificial technology blocks.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:30 PM   #11
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The reason why for Skype: They already provide VOIP services and don't want to provide any space for competition.
The way I read that:
The reason why restrictions on Skype: Comcast already provide VOIP services and don't want to provide any space for competition.
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