So... were we just going to avoid this one forever?

[xoxoxoBruce]

In fairness some of the patients were being treated as out patients, but being far from home they were allow to stay in some of the buildings that were scheduled to be eliminated. These buildings were not in good repair.

But.... but, but, but, the thing that makes me want to physically punish the administrators...severly, is the bureaucratic bullshit.
Treat a patient and leave him hanging on the results of tests, and no further appointments even though treatment will obviously be needed. And when he inquires they have no record of him or why he's there. Of course this is after making him fill out a stack of forms that threaten our forest reserves, often twice.
This is inexcusable, treating a wounded soldier this way. But, the fact that this happens to dozens of soldiers every day, is nothing short of criminal. Those bastards should be court marshaled. I'm serious, criminal malfeasance, treasonable dereliction of duty in war time. Leavenworth.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

In fairness some of the patients were being treated as out patients, but being far from home they were allow to stay in some of the buildings that were scheduled to be eliminated. These buildings were not in good repair.

But.... but, but, but, the thing that makes me want to physically punish the administrators...severly, is the bureaucratic bullshit.
Treat a patient and leave him hanging on the results of tests, and no further appointments even though treatment will obviously be needed. And when he inquires they have no record of him or why he's there. Of course this is after making him fill out a stack of forms that threaten our forest reserves, often twice.
This is inexcusable, treating a wounded soldier this way. But, the fact that this happens to dozens of soldiers every day, is nothing short of criminal. Those bastards should be court marshaled. I'm serious, criminal malfeasance, treasonable dereliction of duty in war time. Leavenworth.

Ahem... waitaminit. Buildings scheduled to be demolished? From the BRAC decision? Or, already condemned buildings? Really, it's a trick question. There is NO EXCUSE!

If it's a live working building, but has accumulated deferred maintenance, fine. But if you (not you xob, the numbnuts fuckwit that assigned that housing) designate it as valid housing, then you damn well better make sure it's in good working order. If it was really condemned or "scheduled for demolition" then it's not appropriate to designate it as shelter, dammit.

This is textbook FUBAR by bureaucracy. Makes me want to hang my head in shame. And I find a certain schadenfreud from the hypocrisy of the "Support the Troops" dittoheads. Fuckers. indeed.

[tw]

Previously posted and apparently ignored in Bob Woodruff's recovery images:

Even Rumsfeld's wife (brought in discretely by other volunteers) discovered how bad things were in Walter Reed - and could not get Rumsfeld to solve it. Once the stories about the contempt for soldier in Walter Reed were leaked, even volunteers were suddenly attacked by the Walter Reed bureaucracy.

Soldiers lying on mattresses without sheets - lying in pools of their own urine. Why no sheets? Money shortages - or what happens when pallets of $hundred bills are deliverd to Iraq and distributed without any accounting - to finance the insurgency that put that soldier into a pool of his own urine.

Even Rumsfled's wife saw what was happening and Rumsfeld did nothing.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by tw

Previously posted and apparently ignored in Bob Woodruff's recovery images: Soldiers lying on mattresses without sheets - lying in pools of their own urine. Why no sheets? Money shortages - or what happens when pallets of $hundred bills are deliverd to Iraq and distributed without any accounting - to finance the insurgency that put that soldier into a pool of his own urine.

Even Rumsfled's wife saw what was happening and Rumsfeld did nothing.

That would be the VA, not Walter Reed. I worked there for three years. The inpatient care is top knotch, same at Bethesda. The problem was with the patients in Med Hold, the transition care between discharge and civilian life after an injury. Just to keep things straight...

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

That would be the VA, not Walter Reed. I worked there for three years.

You have it completely backwards. That is Walter Reed. And when did you work there? Before Rumsfeld was 'fixing' the military? These articles are quite blunt about it. That was Walter Reed - it is that bad. VA hospitals are only now just getting scrutiny because things there are typically even worse. Remember Saddam had WMD even though facts said otherwise and reality was then perverted by anti-Americans. Anyone blowing the whistle in this George Jr era gets massacred - including the better generals who were 'ordered' to be ignored. Even Walter Reed is now that bad because 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. Those who tried to change things were 'transfered'.

I will be the most dispictable poster you have ever meet if it means choosing between being nice verses being honest. I have long been accurate about this administration’s contempt for the American soldier. Even Walter Reed is now that bad.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by tw

You have it completely backwards. That is Walter Reed. And when did you work there? Before Rumsfeld was 'fixing' the military? These articles are quite blunt about it. That was Walter Reed - it is that bad. VA hospitals are only now just getting scrutiny because things there are typically even worse. Remember Saddam had WMD even though facts said otherwise and reality was then perverted by anti-Americans. Anyone blowing the whistle in this George Jr era gets massacred - including the better generals who were 'ordered' to be ignored. Even Walter Reed is now that bad because 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. Those who tried to change things were 'transfered'.

I will be the most dispictable poster you have ever meet if it means choosing between being nice verses being honest. I have long been accurate about this administration’s contempt for the American soldier. Even Walter Reed is now that bad.

The reports that I have read in the mainstream press talk about the VA, specifically on NPR. If you have sources please site them and I will read them. I am brutally honest. The care at Walter Reed is very good. The people that were in building 18 were in a MED HOLD status. I am sure that you know what that is and what it means to be stuck there. I will not make excuses for the failures, they are across the board in many facets of the system, they have been there for years. Funny how suddenly everyone is all interested in fixing what people have said has been broken since its inception. Outpatient care has been and is deplorable. Inpatient care is very good.