An Indecent Proposal.... - Page 3

footfootfoot · 02-19-2007, 11:15 AM

That's a good point, SA. I know someone who ended up in a long drawn out situation (years) over seas. The American embassy figured she was just a whore and didn't offer help. She finally managed to escape during a shopping trip in the US. (the guy got sloppy or figured she wasn't going to bolt.)

Aliantha · 02-19-2007, 05:42 PM

Seriously, if you're even considering entering into a situation like this, you'd be stupid not to have access to funds of your own and retain all your papers in the event that the shit hits the fan and you have to scarper off to avoid the fall out.

Only a foolish person allows themself to be owned by anyone.

9th Engineer · 02-20-2007, 02:25 PM

Agreed, you would have very little leverage if things got nasty and things took a turn for the worse. If he met with another business partner and decided to pass you on as a gift you'd have to go through the new guy for your ticket home...

Aside: Is there any significant difference between a prostitute and an escort? It's really just a matter of skill on the part of the person, the prostitute's skill ends with sex while the escort is able to provide pleasures of conversation and personality as well as those of the flesh. Just a thought.

02-20-2007, 02:32 PM

I would not get involved with a married person because I would not want someone to do so with my wife.
I am not a complicated person.

Aliantha · 02-20-2007, 11:59 PM

Just because someone travels with someone as a companion whether there's sex involved or not, doesn't make them a prostitute.

02-21-2007, 12:00 AM

Who said prostitute?
Edit:
Oh.
My .02:
So?
What the hell is wrong with prostitution?
Never got that one.

If you are getting paid for sex and that is what he has in mind and you know it, regardless of what you call it... prostitute.
dictionary.com

Elspode · 02-21-2007, 04:13 PM

I always sort of wondered exactly why, if you do anyone you want for free without restriction by government, you weren't allowed to get paid for it.

In the end, I decided it was because the government doesn't like money changing hands without them getting their cut. It isn't like they actually care if someone lives or dies in the process, so it has to be the money angle.

Aliantha · 02-21-2007, 06:21 PM

By the dictionary definition of prostitution, we're all prostitues. Anyone who's ever had sex is one. Everyone 'gets' something out of sex. There's always a pay off.

Happy Monkey · 02-21-2007, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode

I always sort of wondered exactly why, if you do anyone you want for free without restriction by government, you weren't allowed to get paid for it.

In the end, I decided it was because the government doesn't like money changing hands without them getting their cut. It isn't like they actually care if someone lives or dies in the process, so it has to be the money angle.

No, it's because of the prudes. There's no reason the government couldn't tax legalized prostitution. It was banned when prudes were more powerful than they are today, and they're still powerful enough that no politician wants to be the one who legalized it.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-21-2007, 08:45 PM

There is nothing wrong with prostitution. Non baby making Sex is just a form of entertainment and strippers and prostitutes are just entertainers.

If we legalized and regulated prostitution you could make it a lot safer but both parties and the government could get some money out of it by taxes. To become a prostitute you would have to pass a test showing that you don't have any sexually transmitted diseases and force the man to wear a condom and offers free birth control to women. It also protects the prostitutes from getting beat up. Now in the US, if a prostitute gets beaten, she can not go to the police because she was performing something illegal and will get in trouble, but if it was legalized, that person would get punished.

A ban on prostitution is just a law of outdated morals and is definitely institutionalized classism.

Aliantha · 02-21-2007, 09:48 PM

Prostitution is legal in many states here.

9th Engineer · 02-21-2007, 10:18 PM

If you legalize prostitution then it becomes an acceptable form of employment. Now before everyone starts noding their heads and thinking about how wonderful that would be, remember that the government can squeeze that from more than one angle. One of the first that pops into my mind is the fact that now everyone capable of walking themselves to the local brothel could be considered to be turning down gainful employment if they did not do so. Might take a little tweaking, but since we seem to think that the government is just waiting for its chance to squeeze more money from us it's a short leap to say that they wouldn't take the chance to cut some expenses.

Aliantha · 02-21-2007, 11:04 PM

*cough*bullshit*cough*

lumberjim · 02-21-2007, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha

By the dictionary definition of prostitution, we're all prostitues. Anyone who's ever had sex is one. Everyone 'gets' something out of sex. There's always a pay off.

rape victims get something out of it?

Aliantha · 02-22-2007, 06:39 AM

consentual sex lj. That wasn't even close to funny.

02-19-2007, 11:15 AM	#31
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	That's a good point, SA. I know someone who ended up in a long drawn out situation (years) over seas. The American embassy figured she was just a whore and didn't offer help. She finally managed to escape during a shopping trip in the US. (the guy got sloppy or figured she wasn't going to bolt.) __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

02-19-2007, 05:42 PM	#32
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Seriously, if you're even considering entering into a situation like this, you'd be stupid not to have access to funds of your own and retain all your papers in the event that the shit hits the fan and you have to scarper off to avoid the fall out. Only a foolish person allows themself to be owned by anyone. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-20-2007, 02:25 PM	#33
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Agreed, you would have very little leverage if things got nasty and things took a turn for the worse. If he met with another business partner and decided to pass you on as a gift you'd have to go through the new guy for your ticket home... Aside: Is there any significant difference between a prostitute and an escort? It's really just a matter of skill on the part of the person, the prostitute's skill ends with sex while the escort is able to provide pleasures of conversation and personality as well as those of the flesh. Just a thought. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

02-20-2007, 11:59 PM	#35
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Just because someone travels with someone as a companion whether there's sex involved or not, doesn't make them a prostitute. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-21-2007, 04:13 PM	#37
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I always sort of wondered exactly why, if you do anyone you want for free without restriction by government, you weren't allowed to get paid for it. In the end, I decided it was because the government doesn't like money changing hands without them getting their cut. It isn't like they actually care if someone lives or dies in the process, so it has to be the money angle. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

02-20-2007, 02:32 PM	#34
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I would not get involved with a married person because I would not want someone to do so with my wife. I am not a complicated person.

02-21-2007, 12:00 AM	#36
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Who said prostitute? Edit: Oh. My .02: So? What the hell is wrong with prostitution? Never got that one. If you are getting paid for sex and that is what he has in mind and you know it, regardless of what you call it... prostitute. dictionary.com

02-21-2007, 06:21 PM	#38
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	By the dictionary definition of prostitution, we're all prostitues. Anyone who's ever had sex is one. Everyone 'gets' something out of sex. There's always a pay off. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-21-2007, 08:45 PM	#40
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	There is nothing wrong with prostitution. Non baby making Sex is just a form of entertainment and strippers and prostitutes are just entertainers. If we legalized and regulated prostitution you could make it a lot safer but both parties and the government could get some money out of it by taxes. To become a prostitute you would have to pass a test showing that you don't have any sexually transmitted diseases and force the man to wear a condom and offers free birth control to women. It also protects the prostitutes from getting beat up. Now in the US, if a prostitute gets beaten, she can not go to the police because she was performing something illegal and will get in trouble, but if it was legalized, that person would get punished. A ban on prostitution is just a law of outdated morals and is definitely institutionalized classism.

02-21-2007, 09:48 PM	#41
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Prostitution is legal in many states here. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-21-2007, 10:18 PM	#42
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	If you legalize prostitution then it becomes an acceptable form of employment. Now before everyone starts noding their heads and thinking about how wonderful that would be, remember that the government can squeeze that from more than one angle. One of the first that pops into my mind is the fact that now everyone capable of walking themselves to the local brothel could be considered to be turning down gainful employment if they did not do so. Might take a little tweaking, but since we seem to think that the government is just waiting for its chance to squeeze more money from us it's a short leap to say that they wouldn't take the chance to cut some expenses. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

02-21-2007, 11:04 PM	#43
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	coughbullshitcough __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-22-2007, 06:39 AM	#45
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	consentual sex lj. That wasn't even close to funny. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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