Shut Up! You Voted for the War.

[tw]

Originally Posted by glatt

I don't know what Hillary's position was at the time, but I think I remember at least some of the other Democrats who voted "for the war" stated that they didn't want to go to war and didn't approve of going to war, but they were voting "to give the president authority to go to war" so that Bush would have that threat of war as a negotiation tool when dealing with Saddam during the cat and mouse game leading ...

Hilary's position, as I understand it, is tenuous. Today, we measure who is and is not leadership material because we have almost none. George Jr lied. There is no way around that fact. A real leader states that fact bluntly. Then a leader demands viable solutions. How many demonstrate balls and honesty?

Currently, America's only viable solution is found in 79 objectives from the Iraq Study Group. But even many Democrats also are not being honest with us. Many Republican who know this president is still lying are still playing politics. That was the point of Sen Chuck Hagel of Nebraska who demands every party member be formally committed rather than play politics. Every Senator and Congressman should be held personally accountable to a solution - and their entire Congressional reputation should be tarnished accordingly.

This is no time to play politics. We need leaders in part because the Eisenhower and Stennis are not on a training cruise. Do you remember how much you feared on 10 September? Better remember. Things are only getting worse.

Hilary's position is not defensible. A leader called Hilary would instead campaign incessantly for 79 objectives from the Iraq Study Group ... and demand what only leaders have the balls to do. Her only hope is a strong offense - to act like a leader - to join the ranks of honest Americans who finally acknowledge this president lied. She is not doing that.

Too many Democrats and Republicans fear to ask THE question every week: "When do we go after bin Laden?" We don't demand they act as leaders. So they let us forget the only reason that justified any current war. When do we go after bin Laden - a question that only those with leadership abilities dare ask? Bin Laden is the only smoking gun that justifies any war. Somehow everyone forgets the only smoking gun that justified any war. So bin Laden runs free. And we have a government full of backboneless or self serving corrupt leaders.

"When do we go after bin Laden" ... and why am I the only one asking the only fact in the world that justifies any American war.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by tw

"When do we go after bin Laden" ... and why am I the only one asking the only fact in the world that justifies any American war.

Good questions.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by tw

When do we go after bin Laden - a question that only those with leadership abilities dare ask?

Nobody will openly ask that question because they know the answer is most likely, to do that we have to go to Pakistan. Pakistan has nukes and zealots and is a strategic ally.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Nobody will openly ask that question because they know the answer is most likely, to do that we have to go to Pakistan. Pakistan has nukes and zealots and is a strategic ally.

India will not even comply with the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty - so we will give them what they most need - nuclear material? Pakistan was proliferating nuclear technology all over the world - and they too are called an ally?

Meanwhile, America announces intent to 'Pearl Harbor' Iran and N Korea. Therefore both must develop nuclear weapons - as Putin so accurately noted. Therefore these countries are evil?

As long as bin Laden runs free, then George Jr can justify any actions. No wonder no one asks, "When do we go after bin Laden?" It’s just too convenient to let bin Laden run free - and to ignore event in India and Pakistan that create nuclear instability and that America endorses.