Armed America

[rigcranop]

Spexxvet, I've followed this thread since it's start and re-read it from beginning to present. Yet, I haven't grasped your definitive opinion yet. Would you answer some questions directly and concisely?
1. Do you think there should be an amendment to the constitution to remove guns from American civilians?
2. Do you think guns should be legislated out of the hands of American civilians?
3. Do you think American civilians should voluntarily give up their firearms?
4. Do you think any of the above alternatives will have a major impact on violent crime figures?
5. Do you think Americans who are opposed to gun ownership are more civilized than Americans who own guns legally?

[busterb]

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[Jordan]

If firearms were made illegal and if the police could round up every last one out of the hands of every citizen, the only way for them to get into the hands of criminals would be through our oh-so-tight national borders. Sorta like how the drugs get through on a daily basis, except it would probably be easier to sneak the guns through.

This is the idea you've been proposing is it not, that all firearms be handed over to the police and henceforth be illegal? Theoretically possible, but so is the chance of the Earth getting devoured by a von Neuman machine. Not too likely to occur, but theoretically possible.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Jordan

If firearms were made illegal and if the police could round up every last one out of the hands of every citizen,

You want guns so that if you are attacked, or if someone tries to steal something, or if...

Originally Posted by Jordan

the only way for them to get into the hands of criminals would be through our oh-so-tight national borders. Sorta like how the drugs get through on a daily basis, except it would probably be easier to sneak the guns through.

So should we just give up on making drugs and rape illegal, for the same reason?

Originally Posted by Jordan

This is the idea you've been proposing is it not, that all firearms be handed over to the police and henceforth be illegal?

No. Voluntarily give up your HANDGUNS, and keep them legal - it won't matter. If "law abiding" citizens did not have handguns, then criminals will be easily identified and dealt with. Make punishments for misusing a handgun - whether in a crime, an accident, or treating them irresponsibly - a life sentence with no parole, and the use of handguns will dwindle, and hopefully die.

Originally Posted by Jordan

Theoretically possible, but so is the chance of the Earth getting devoured by a von Neuman machine. Not too likely to occur, but theoretically possible.

Probably about the same likelihood that you'll need a gun to protect yourself from harm, huh?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by rigcranop

...1. Do you think there should be an amendment to the constitution to remove guns from American civilians?

No.

Originally Posted by rigcranop

2. Do you think guns should be legislated out of the hands of American civilians?

No.

Originally Posted by rigcranop

3. Do you think American civilians should voluntarily give up their firearms?

Yes, but only handguns.

Originally Posted by rigcranop

4. Do you think any of the above alternatives will have a major impact on violent crime figures?

Yes

Originally Posted by rigcranop

5. Do you think Americans who are opposed to gun ownership are more civilized than Americans who own guns legally?

No, but they're more civilized than those who use handguns, legally or illegally.

Hope that helps. Let me know if I can answer any more questions.