If you had owned a gun....

LabRat · 02-07-2007, 09:26 AM

The Cellar is gettin' pretty big, could you link to Noodles story please? Thanks!

Spexxvet · 02-07-2007, 09:40 AM

Sure

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Originally Posted by Hippikos
After all these gun-threads I still haven't seen one bit of proof that allowing civilians to carry concealed weapons makes the US a safer country. On the contrary

When I was in Merced, CA, I was at the motel unloading my stuff. Because of the value of the items I was carrying in my vehicle, I carried a gun whenever transporting them. I took my suitcase up to the room, and when I returned, 2 guys approached my truck from different angles. One hopped over the fence by the pool and came from the rear, and the other was already peeking in the back windows when I came around the corner, so I don't know where he came from.

I'm normally pretty friendly to people when travelling, but these guys were up to no good. I said "how's it going" and started around to the passenger side to get the vehicle between me and them. They both moved to block me in, then suddenly they didn't seem interested in me at all. They took off running (literally) in 2 different directions. The reason? I had a Glock 21 on my hip that they apparently hadn't seen because of the stuff I was carrying in.

There was no cowboy music playing, I didn't feel like a tough guy nor did I feel overly freaked out or anything. I just went around to the desk and told the woman there that there were a couple of guys casing her customers. I dunno if she ever called the cops or not, or even if she understood me. I never saw the guys again, and the rest of the month went by without incident.

Did I "make the country a safer place" or "blahblahblah reduce crime blahblahblah"? No. But the presence of a weapon kept me from being a victim. And I don't care for people telling me that they don't think I should have that right. If other people are misusing their rights, take it up with them. I have nothing to do with it.

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glatt · 02-07-2007, 09:44 AM

If you are looking for anecdotal evidence, the only one I have is that my grandfather was a gun owner. His home was robbed once when he wasn't home (lived out in the country in an isolated location) and the thieves took their time taking all his good stuff, including all his guns. The result was that his guns didn't protect him and they are now in the hands of criminals.

Spexxvet · 02-07-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

...Wait. I have another story that I can't really tell in detail. Let me be vague. ...

You could tell me, but then you'd have to kill me?

Hoof Hearted · 02-07-2007, 10:21 AM

Not me, but it affected me as a child and left a lasting impression.

Many years ago, Mother and her fiance took my younger sis and I (ages 8 and 11) to a state park for a day of fresh air and picnicing at Frank Raines State Park, up in the foothills of the California farmlands along the San Juaquin Valley. We stayed all day, playing in the playground, hiking some trails and catching polliwogs in the creek. We had sandwiches for lunch and for dinner Bill fired up a BBQ and made steaks to go with some side dishes Mom had brought. We thought it was a treat to have such a grand meal outdoors!

It was after dark when we finished eating and we were lounging on two huge quilts layed side-by-side and illuminated by Bill's coleman lantern. Mom & Bill were reclined, snuggling and talking while Sis and I were coloring in books with crayons and such. We shared the park with a few other visiters during the day, but by dusk, we were the only ones left.

I noticed a change in voice tone between Mom and Bill and looked up to see two young men (early/mid 20s?) approaching us out of the dark. No vehicle had pulled into the lot or driven past on the road at the bottom of the hill. As they approached, Bill reached his hand under a nearby quilt corner and the "snick" of the safety being released was clearly heard in the night.

The two men immediately stopped approaching. One commented about 'how safe the sound of a gun sounded' to him. I have always remembered that comment because I found it a strange thing for a person on the other end of a gun to say. They chit-chatted for about a minute more and then left.

Were they up to no good? I am certain of it.
I don't want to speculate about what could have, or would have, happened without having had that gun available...but I am certain the "snick" curtailed any thoughts of mayhem with us that night.
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02-07-2007, 09:26 AM	#1
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02-07-2007, 09:44 AM	#3
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	If you are looking for anecdotal evidence, the only one I have is that my grandfather was a gun owner. His home was robbed once when he wasn't home (lived out in the country in an isolated location) and the thieves took their time taking all his good stuff, including all his guns. The result was that his guns didn't protect him and they are now in the hands of criminals. Last edited by glatt; 02-07-2007 at 12:28 PM.

02-07-2007, 10:21 AM	#5
Hoof Hearted ...you smell something? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Monroe, GA Posts: 420	Not me, but it affected me as a child and left a lasting impression. Many years ago, Mother and her fiance took my younger sis and I (ages 8 and 11) to a state park for a day of fresh air and picnicing at Frank Raines State Park, up in the foothills of the California farmlands along the San Juaquin Valley. We stayed all day, playing in the playground, hiking some trails and catching polliwogs in the creek. We had sandwiches for lunch and for dinner Bill fired up a BBQ and made steaks to go with some side dishes Mom had brought. We thought it was a treat to have such a grand meal outdoors! It was after dark when we finished eating and we were lounging on two huge quilts layed side-by-side and illuminated by Bill's coleman lantern. Mom & Bill were reclined, snuggling and talking while Sis and I were coloring in books with crayons and such. We shared the park with a few other visiters during the day, but by dusk, we were the only ones left. I noticed a change in voice tone between Mom and Bill and looked up to see two young men (early/mid 20s?) approaching us out of the dark. No vehicle had pulled into the lot or driven past on the road at the bottom of the hill. As they approached, Bill reached his hand under a nearby quilt corner and the "snick" of the safety being released was clearly heard in the night. The two men immediately stopped approaching. One commented about 'how safe the sound of a gun sounded' to him. I have always remembered that comment because I found it a strange thing for a person on the other end of a gun to say. They chit-chatted for about a minute more and then left. Were they up to no good? I am certain of it. I don't want to speculate about what could have, or would have, happened without having had that gun available...but I am certain the "snick" curtailed any thoughts of mayhem with us that night. hh __________________ I have the ability of single-minded determination and focu...Hey, look! A horse!

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