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Old 01-22-2007, 02:08 PM   #1
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In the 70's it was global cooling we were worried about.
If by "we" you don't mean the scientific community.
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Old 01-22-2007, 04:27 PM   #2
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If by "we" you don't mean the scientific community.
I most certainly do mean the scientific community - its a fact.
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Old 01-23-2007, 07:14 AM   #3
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If by "we" you don't mean the scientific community.
Here's a quote I found this morning.

" Here is the real point -- and I will quote one of the top climate scientists in the world:

"We simply cannot afford to gamble. We cannot risk inaction. The scientists who disagree are acting irresponsibly. The indications that our climate can soon change for the worse are too strong to be reasonably ignored."

This scientist is so credible that I am very fearful for my future. I agree, that scientists who disagree are acting irresponsibly, and must be censured. There is too much at stake. I think we should start by outlawing the burning of fossil fuels altogether, as this eminent scientist argued.

One little detail I should point out --- this scientist was quoted in 1972, and was talking about the horrors of the coming ice age, caused by human activity, which was responsible for global cooling. And these beliefs were held by the eminent climatologists of the day -- Dr. Reid Bryson, Dr. S.I Rasool, Dr Steven Schneider, and others, and reported in peer-reviewed journals.

Here's the important point: what are the common threads between the climate debate in 1972 and the climate debate today? 1) The solution is to punish producers of, and users of energy -- to put an end to the evils of capitalism and free markets, and 2) scientists who didn't agree were marginalized by the true believers.
True Believer | January 22, 2007"
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Old 01-23-2007, 07:23 AM   #4
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That's been the worrisome thing all along. The first folks to embrace GW as real were those with other agendas. If it really is a problem folks need to sell it in a way that doesn't attack human progress. That is why I'm looking at the energy security issue. That is a good reason to shift away from fossil fuels and results in an economy not wedd to freeing co2.
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:10 AM   #5
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" Here is the real point -- and I will quote one of the top climate scientists in the world:
Are there any more details, like the name of the scientist, or the rest of the article?
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:23 AM   #6
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Reminds me of the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, where the Ark is wheeled into a huge warehouse just after the CIA assures Indy that "top scientists" are studying the Ark, but won't name them.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:18 AM   #7
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Are there any more details, like the name of the scientist, or the rest of the article?
Climate expert Heidi Cullen

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