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Old 01-19-2007, 10:14 PM   #1
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What Stoker doesn't grasp, or at least address, is insurgents are fellow country men with different political ideals. Not true in Iraq. Iraq has a holy civil war going on, which is a whole different animal than political dissidents.


Not exactly true...I believe most of the insurgents are Iranian or Syrians with a direct outside political viewpoint...with Iraq being a threat to their to their balance in the middle east.
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Old 01-20-2007, 01:33 AM   #2
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What Stoker doesn't grasp, or at least address, is insurgents are fellow country men with different political ideals. Not true in Iraq. Iraq has a holy civil war going on, which is a whole different animal than political dissidents.


Not exactly true...I believe most of the insurgents are Iranian or Syrians with a direct outside political viewpoint...with Iraq being a threat to their to their balance in the middle east.
Not only "their balance", but also their POWER.
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:04 PM   #3
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What Stoker doesn't grasp, or at least address, is insurgents are fellow country men with different political ideals. Not true in Iraq. Iraq has a holy civil war going on, which is a whole different animal than political dissidents.


Not exactly true...I believe most of the insurgents are Iranian or Syrians with a direct outside political viewpoint...with Iraq being a threat to their to their balance in the middle east.
If you look at the distribution of Muslim sects, Saddam's Sunni minority in Iraq are the majority in Iran. But that's it, the rest of the World is primarily Shia. I can see where the Iranians would have an interest in helping their Bros. But that said, I haven't seen any evidence of more than bomb building trainers and organizers....you know, scoutmasters, coming over. There's plenty of locals in Iraq, with nothing to do and nothing to lose.
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Old 01-21-2007, 05:22 PM   #4
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I can see where the Iranians would have an interest in helping their Bros. But that said, I haven't seen any evidence of more than bomb building trainers and organizers....you know, scoutmasters, coming over. There's plenty of locals in Iraq, with nothing to do and nothing to lose.
I don't know either, but I suspect that Iran is doing a lot more than we know of. I have no proof or anything, just suspicions. :shrug:
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Old 01-21-2007, 07:25 PM   #5
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I don't know either, but I suspect that Iran is doing a lot more than we know of. I have no proof or anything, just suspicions. :shrug:
Of course, everyone is always doing more than we know of...
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:46 AM   #6
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If you look at the distribution of Muslim sects, Saddam's Sunni minority in Iraq are the majority in Iran. But that's it, the rest of the World is primarily Shia. I can see where the Iranians would have an interest in helping their Bros. But that said, I haven't seen any evidence of more than bomb building trainers and organizers....you know, scoutmasters, coming over. There's plenty of locals in Iraq, with nothing to do and nothing to lose.

I think you've mixed things a bit.

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Iran is overwhelmingly Shia - 89%. Shias also form a majority of the population in Yemen and Azerbaijan, Bahrain and 60% of the population of Iraq. There are also sizeable Shia communities along the east coast of Saudi Arabia and in the Lebanon. The well known guerilla organization Hizbollah, which forced the Israelis out of southern Lebanon in 2000, is Shia. Worldwide, Shias constitute ten to fifteen percent of the overall Muslim population.
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:52 PM   #7
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I think you've mixed things a bit.~snip
Um...well....er.... ...ah...I was testing ya...yeah, that's it testing.

Doh, seems I got that exactly backward, din'I. heh heh heh. Would you believe I changed the names to protect the innocent? Din't think so.
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:16 PM   #8
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If you look at the distribution of Muslim sects, Saddam's Sunni minority in Iraq are the majority in Iran. But that's it, the rest of the World is primarily Shia. I can see where the Iranians would have an interest in helping their Bros. But that said, I haven't seen any evidence of more than bomb building trainers and organizers....you know, scoutmasters, coming over. There's plenty of locals in Iraq, with nothing to do and nothing to lose.
Yeah right... they just want to teach the "Kiddies" how to meet Allah in style! How do the MSM determine who exactly plants the bombs and do they interview the suicide bombers afterwards?
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:49 AM   #9
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Just wind them all up and see who volunteers. Rebellious, sullen, Muslim teens don't have the option of going Goth or Emo, but they can go boom.
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Old 01-21-2007, 07:07 PM   #10
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Not exactly true...I believe most of the insurgents are Iranian or Syrians with a direct outside political viewpoint...with Iraq being a threat to their to their balance in the middle east.



I just love the US Constitution. You can say what you believe.
Even though it's crap of the first order.
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