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Old 12-31-2002, 09:26 PM   #11
Cairo
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Give up on what? Trying to clue you 3x losers? I should, why bother?....

I have a life, two kids, and XBX live...why would I want to even try and waste too much of my time on you boorish dolts.

I work HVAC and have a high degree of intrest in the subject. It allows my intrest in chemistry to have tangible real world applications that I(and others) visably appreciate.

The pool was only used to illustrate the overall sensitivity to sunlight that chlorine has.
You are being an ass to infer anything else.

As for the CFC decomposition, it's no big deal. The sunlight repairs it during it's daily process of re-energizing the atmosphere. I'm not saying that CFC doesn't crack ozone, I'm saying it doesn't amount to much. Since the CFC ozone cracking process is photoenergized, the only time CFC is cracking ozone is the same time that THE SUN is generating hundreds billions of ozone molecules at the same time it is ionizing the now liberated chlorine and flourine radicals.

The CFC may be inert and stable until it reaches the stratosphere, but the minute the chlorine loses whatever UV protection the flourine-carbon compund offered, it's own demise towards ionization has begun.
The sun will return the next day(inspite of what these latter day chicken littles tell you) to replenish whatever atmoshere the now vanquished CFC mangaged to crack.

I already stated the preference for pre 1970 chem books-no political bs.
Unless the laws of physics or thermodynamics changed during the 1970's, everything still reacts and decays at the same pre-1970 rate. Sodium is sodium, and oxygen is oxygen.
The only real material advances have been in the areas of polymers and borax/hydrogen generation. Which you won't find in a high school student textbooks these days.

There is a good reason why the southern tip of south america is a near desert. If there is any reason to suspect the ozone void is seasonal, then it would follow that any humans in the affected areas would be better served to take some shelter.
Still, I use UV in HVAC applications to sterilize the air. Unless you happen to have lived in puntes wherever, or be personally aquainted with one who is. I don't believe you. And I don't believe everything I read. I believe what I see, and I've seen how much just a single bandwidth of UV can literally destroy countless critters and compounds from a few seconds exposure.
The light will blast the mold and most scum off an evap coil/air box(take a peek at yours sometime) within 45 days.
In short if this ever actually occurred, an inhabited area getting hit with full spectrum UV.
The entire affected region would be wasteland within a week, uninhabitable in a month.

It is the height of human arrogance to even believe that we can parametrically affect the weather of our planet.

NASA has also reported what looks like a warming trend throughout the whole solar system: Mars(satellite imagery of water flows),
Neptune/Uranus(increased cloud activity),
and even Pluto's(increased cloud activity) atmosphere's have seemed to warm up during this past decade.

I suppose the US is responsible for that too.

BTW. China and India have no restrictions placed on their CFC use/production. I find it amusing that the same year an ozone void decrease is observed, the increased production of CFC and their related appliances in the aforementioned countries is ignored.
Those appliances need repair as well. And the way the HVAC techs used to service stuff here, is the way they are doing it there: venting straight R-12 onto an overheated compressor to unlock it's heat overload switch, venting R-12 and R-22 straight into the atmosphere for any depressurization of the line(leak, filter drier change, upgrade), and lastly burping(venting) the waste gas out of a spent R-12/22 cannister into the air.

We could quit using CFC's and HCFC's altogether and the combined release of China and India over the next decade will more than make up for it.

I don't care about China and India anyway, not as far cfc's go. It's a non-issue. I might as well worry about the sky falling.

I don't hate arabs, just wahabi fundamentalists.

In fact that's your words. I don't hate anybody.
It's too much energy expended towards things/people that I could care less about.

To be more accurate, I despise wahabi fundamentalist.
My desire for the extermination of all palestinians above the age of 4, and the scattering of the remaining children throughout the adoption agencies of the western alliance nations is purely pragmatic. The 5 year olds are largely corrupted and won't forget their parents being put down to easily. The 4 and under crowd can easily be co-opted by barney, sesame street, mickey mouse and the rest of america's legions. The memory of their psychotic parents having bred them to strap a bomb to them will quickly be forgotten in a blur of pokemon and ice cream.
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