January 2, 2007: Nebraska ice storm

[Sheldonrs]

'tis the season to be freezin'. I guess the rumors about global warming were exagerated.

[rnx]

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

I guess the rumors about global warming were exagerated.

Well, freezing ice storms happen at temperatures below 0 at the grow and higher in the atmosphere. What happens is this:
Global temperatures rise, atmosphere temperature rises
More evaporation occur in the large bodies of water (hence places where they get more snow)

Since the atmosphere temperature rises, two things can then happen:
It'll rain, and the rain will freeze because of clouds (remember the evaporation)
-or-
if no clouds form, temperature at surface will be equal to the one in the atmosphere (hence warmer)

It depends where you are located.
Normally, where I live, winter with snow starts around November 15th and ends around February 15th. This year, there wasn't any snow until December 25th. And it melted. So winter hasn't officially started yet for me

And YET - in my old city, winter started 2 months early, and the temperatures are WELL below season normals.

So yeah, global warming doesn't necessarily mean warmer seasons

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

'tis the season to be freezin'. I guess the rumors about global warming were exagerated.

It was 87F here, Saturday. Eighty-seven. This is Florida and all, but almost hitting 90F in December feels really, really weird.

[ajaccio]

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

...I guess the rumors about global warming were exagerated.

So I guess that ice shelf didn't actually separate from the north of Canada last week, and the polar bears are not losing their habitat. It's all an exaggeration ... NOT.

[Sheldonrs]

Originally Posted by ajaccio

So I guess that ice shelf didn't actually separate from the north of Canada last week, and the polar bears are not losing their habitat. It's all an exaggeration ... NOT.

That's just a trial separation. They really want to work things out.

And the Polar Bears were never really happy there. They really WANT to live in warmer climates and drown trying to get there. Ask anyone in the Bush admin. They'll confirm it.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Nature and the climate change constantly. The Polar Bears are going through a transitional stage, where there is a shortage of food because the ice for hunting on is diminishing. But, as the ice melts the area becomes warmer and more hospitable to humans.
Then when humans migrate to this newly hospitable area, the bears will have plenty of food.... especially if it's fat Americans.


Oh, it was pretty in Kansas too.

[Elspode]

My posting here a couple of years back, with some crappy pics. Not as impressive as the Fark shots, but still pretty.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by ajaccio

So I guess that ice shelf didn't actually separate from the north of Canada last week, and the polar bears are not losing their habitat. It's all an exaggeration ... NOT.

The glaciers have been melting for the past 10,000 years or so. There are tropical plant fossils in Antarctica from before the last ice age.

Just because its new to you doesn't mean its new.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Beestie

The glaciers have been melting for the past 10,000 years or so. There are tropical plant fossils in Antarctica from before the last ice age.

Just because its new to you doesn't mean its new.

Antarctica moved. Google "Pangea."

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by glatt

Antarctica moved. Google "Pangea."

Google Chicken Little.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Welcome to the Cellar, vidacita.
I think it was last week they noticed the broken shelf had moved, and might become a shipping hazard.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Beestie

Google Chicken Little.

Chicken Little thought the sky was falling, but was mistaken.

Scientists agree that the Earth is warming. They are almost certainly right.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by glatt

Chicken Little thought the sky was falling, but was mistaken. Scientists agree that the Earth is warming. They are almost certainly right.

My point is that the earth has been warming for tens of thousands of years and that there is no need to panic.

And I was making a less obvious critique of the selective use of "evidence" proferred by the "sky is falling" crowd. If its too warm, its global warming. If its too cold, its global warming.

To pick up on HM's point, the earth used to be one continent. Now, its several continents. The earth used to be an ice cube. Now its not. We could shove a cork up every tailpipe, exhaust pipe, bovine butt and industrial smokestack on planet earth and the earth would still be getting warmer. Just like it has been for a long, long time.

Like they say, if you don't like the eco climate, just wait 50 thousand years.

[CharlieG]

Originally Posted by glatt

Antarctica moved. Google "Pangea."

closer to home time wise - they used to grow grapes in Greenland....

[beauregaardhooligan]

eyep.
We get ice storms in SC, but not as thick.
This was just over a year ago, and the power was out for over a week.
Makes the argument to bury power/utility line.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...12-15-5006.jpg