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Old 12-02-2006, 02:22 AM   #16
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Anybody have full text of the speech, rather than a bunch of cherry-picked quotes?
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Old 12-02-2006, 02:32 AM   #17
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I did, copy it quick before the Gov'ment gets it!
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Hello fellow Americans, coloreds, Jew-rodents and the rest of you waiting to burn after the rapture.
We have a brilliant road before us, laid down upon the backs of the less fortunate *coughracescough* and downtrodden little people who have given so much and, hopefully with Republican support, will continue to do so!
Soon, Jesus will come back and liberate this great nation that he made, kill all other nations except those who vote for us in the UN and the demon races and all will be well... I shall be president on that day. My wiener will work too!
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Oh, free speech is very bad... if you speak out against anything anyone is doing that seems like it make make things change, you are a dirty, rag-head-terrorist and should kill yourself.
Praise God and all his works... let's eat.
Wow... just...wow. It is like Churchill is back again, huh? Man, you don't hear stuff like that much any more!
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Old 12-02-2006, 06:32 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by Beestie
Since it would have been much easier for Mr. Gingrich -regardless of one's opinion of him- to "tell the audience what they 'paid him to tell them'" it gets my attention that he, instead, chose to tell them like it is.
Horseshit, not like it is.....like he thinks it is.
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It would appear that bin Laden has enjoyed more success than he could ever have imagined in terms of eroding America from the inside. To hear such as this from someone like Gingrich is indeed sobering if not alarming.
True, because of people like him claiming it's necessary..... the sky is falling, the sky is falling.
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We may really be faced with choices tougher than we are ready to face. Is it truly necessary for us to sacrifice what we are to protect ourselves? When some smart guy (help me out with who it was) said anyone who gives up freedom for security deserves neither - did he contemplate a 9/11 world? Would he say the same thing today or would he side with Newt?
It was people like Newt that he was warning us against.
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Time for America to decide what it wants so it seems. We can either take the pricipled position and take a hit or we can become less "American" and give more power to the government to protect us. Personally, I think we should stick with what got us here. Even it its my town to go up in a mushroom cloud. At least the rest of America can "martyr" us and defend our existing principles.
C'mon, do you really think the government could stop a small, well financed, terrorist cell?
It can't be done without turning this country into North Korea and maybe not then.
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America is no stranger to shedding blood to defend its right to exist as conceived. I see no reason to revisit that - potentially personal sacrifices not withstanding.

They die for a purpose. We die for a purpose. We kill for a purpose. They kill for a purpose. But the idea that we have to become more like them to defeat them is to hand them a victory without exacting a price. Nothing American about that. Nothing. Sorry Newt. I vote to retain rights granted to me and guaranteed to me. Find another way to win. If I have to pay for my descendents' freedom than so be it. Somebody paid for mine so its only fair.
We have a winner! You make the right choice.
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Old 12-02-2006, 08:32 AM   #19
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I was suprised at Gingriches level of paranoia.

Time for America to decide what it wants so it seems. We can either take the pricipled position and take a hit or we can become less "American" and give more power to the government to protect us. Personally, I think we should stick with what got us here. Even it its my town to go up in a mushroom cloud. At least the rest of America can "martyr" us and defend our existing principles.

Deviating from our principles is what got us here. Constant wars in foreign lands got us here. Bush had a rare opportunity after 911. Had he ruled as he ran America would be a powerful force for good today. Unfortunately, he played it as if he was following bin laden's script.
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Old 12-02-2006, 12:21 PM   #20
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Far more people died because they were afraid to fly, post 9/11, due to increased travel on the roads, than in all terrorist attacks against the US combined, foreign soil included.
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Old 12-02-2006, 02:27 PM   #21
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Thomas Jefferson, "Those who would sacrifice a little freedom for a little security will lose both and deserve neither."
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Old 12-02-2006, 03:22 PM   #22
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That was Benjamin Franklin.
Good quote and impulse though. (everything else is TJ)

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
~Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790), Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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Old 12-02-2006, 04:17 PM   #23
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Ahh! We're doing quotes then? here's one:

I have found the paradox that if I love until it hurts, then there is no hurt, but only more love.

Author: Mother Teresa
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Old 12-02-2006, 04:31 PM   #24
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:29 AM   #25
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That's funny. The site I quoted from attributed it to Jefferson and a slightly different verson of the same thing to Franklyn.....shows not to trust the internet :P
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:39 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by Griff
He thinks he's going to be your next President.
to be fair, he hopes to be the next president. he expects to engineer the movement that sweeps the next person in. i was reading some article a few weeks ago. doesn't seem like the best plan to me, but this is america, so...
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