South Africa's high court approves gay marriage

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by orthodoc

Big snip of good points ~ I don't want to debate any of these topics here, because instead of logical discussion/argument there will only be ad hominem attacks and spurious accusations. From here on I think I'll just lurk on the borders of Orwell-land.

You make some good points. Yes, there is too much personal derision vs disagreement with positions, but I think that human nature. It's probably because people are emotional animals, for better or worse. I think it probably keeps some lurkers lurking rather than adding their thoughts because they are afraid of having to defend their position.

I also think it's human nature to defend your thoughts/feelings, even if someone posts a logical argument you haven't thought of, because to accept their argument would be admitting you hadn't been smart enough to think it through, hadn't prepared properly.
That's a shame because it makes posting a risk in self esteem and social (online) standing, rather than casual conversation that can bring lots of views and opinions to light.

That said, I know I'm as guilty as anyone in arguing points aggressively.
I try to stick to the issues but....sometimes I forget my original signature, "Don't make it personal, don't take it personal".

orthodoc, we haven't achieved nirvana here yet, but I haven't found any place better, have you?