Cameras to read license plates on I-90

[glatt]

Cameras are everywhere. Can't put that genie back in the bottle.

Gotta put one of those computer monitor privacy screens over the plate, so cops at ground level can see it fine, but cameras on poles can't.

[xoxoxoBruce]

That raises another question. What if they detect your car but can't read the plate? Automatic tank trap, hellfire missiles, rising bollards?

[9th Engineer]

Come on, this is really starting to sink into heavy grade paranoia guys. The comments about interstate permits and the 1984 stuff is so outrageous it's funny. We are not a communist nation nor will we be (at least under this or next few presidents). I hate to ruin anyones day, but your licence plate is already in a database as being registered under your name (the owner of the car), so all this secret data mining paranoia is just stupid. Look at what this actually is without projecting your own private fears onto it.

[Elspode]

Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Come on, this is really starting to sink into heavy grade paranoia guys. The comments about interstate permits and the 1984 stuff is so outrageous it's funny.

What branch of the CIA do you work for, again?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Come on, this is really starting to sink into heavy grade paranoia guys. The comments about interstate permits and the 1984 stuff is so outrageous it's funny. We are not a communist nation nor will we be (at least under this or next few presidents). ...

It's not about communism - an economic system. It's about authoritarianism. And *this* president has done everything he can to increase the power of the executive branch, making the position of POTUS more dictatorial. That's what you should worry about. But who needs habeus corpus, anyway?

I'm sure they just want to cross-reference the car's plate number with the chip in your arm that's transmitting your personal data.

[tw]

Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Come on, this is really starting to sink into heavy grade paranoia guys.

HE even has a secret court so that bench warrants can be issued for wire tapping. Even that was too restrictive for president Cheney who then wiretaps without judicial review. Why would he do that? Obvious. He wants a dictatorship.

I never thought Americans would stand for such threats. And yet so many even advocated torture, international kidnappings (extraordinary rendition), letting bin Laden go free, secret prisons, Guantanamo, Abu Ghriad, lie to 'Pearl Harbor' a sovereign nation, suspended legal action against so many companies (Enron, et al during Harvey Pitts tenure), the raping of CA during a mythical energy crisis, $450,000 campaign contributions to keep a 'potential 3 Mile Island' reactor going, the K Street project, called the Columbia an accident, attempted to destroy Hubble, 'Man to Mars' nonsense and other destructions of science, and suspension of Writ of Habeas Corpus. Reasons why this president is so scary is made obvious in The Cellar. Notice how many actually approve of 'these some of the most anti-American' actions. What makes president Cheney and the rest of the George Jr administration so scary are how so many even in the Cellar approved of these actions.

No, the cameras should not be a threat to anyone. However how can you blame others for being so paranoid? George Jr has been the most dangerous president since WWII - with only Nixon as the possible exception. I cannot think of any other presidents this dangerous to Americans which is why I cannot blame anyone for worrying.

Who else besides Tojo and president Cheney advocated 'Pearl Harbor'? Who else can shoot his friend, then run away before law enforcement can question him? Who else would issue massive no-bid contracts to his own company (Halliburton), have no guilt, and not investigated? So many have massive reasons to be paranoid.

[Pie]

Originally Posted by tw

Who else besides Tojo and president Cheney advocated 'Pearl Harbor'? Who else can shoot his friend, then run away before law enforcement can question him? Who else would issue massive no-bid contracts to his own company (Halliburton), have no guilt, and not investigated?

I know, I know! The candyman can!

[Torrere]

Coeur d'Alene isn't the white power capitol of North America anymore. They drove out the Aryan Nations about five years ago and razed the Aryan Nations compound. I think the Aryan Nations resettled in Pennsylvania or somewhere.

However, North Idaho is packed with fiercely independent anti-government types, so I'm kind of surprised that surveillance like this would start there.





Where were you living, marichiko? I grew up in Sandpoint.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Come on, this is really starting to sink into heavy grade paranoia guys. The comments about interstate permits and the 1984 stuff is so outrageous it's funny. We are not a communist nation nor will we be (at least under this or next few presidents). I hate to ruin anyones day, but your licence plate is already in a database as being registered under your name (the owner of the car), so all this secret data mining paranoia is just stupid. Look at what this actually is without projecting your own private fears onto it.

So young, so naive. (whimsical sigh...)

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Come on, this is really starting to sink into heavy grade paranoia guys. The comments about interstate permits and the 1984 stuff is so outrageous it's funny. We are not a communist nation nor will we be (at least under this or next few presidents). I hate to ruin anyones day, but your licence plate is already in a database as being registered under your name (the owner of the car), so all this secret data mining paranoia is just stupid. Look at what this actually is without projecting your own private fears onto it.

You don't see the danger because you haven't experienced the incredible hassle when the government gets a hard-on for you. When some desk jockey misinterprets some (usually erroneous) information. You'd be surprised how much power is wielded by faceless clerks in windowless cubicles. The faces you see, are just doing their job and powerless to alter even obvious mistakes. At minimum, you've got to hire a lawyer.

Think about it, how much information could someone like Google, mine from a series of cameras on the interstates. Now take that power, that data, and sift it for suspicious scenarios.

You think I have too much imagination? I think you underestimate Fearless Fosdick's imagination.
Law enforcement/homeland security types spend their entire day wondering what they don't know. When presented with a system that will give them more information, they'll recognize, seize and milk it, in a New York minute.

I see this as one more can of Crisco on a long downhill run.