Paedo hid under girl's bed NSFAnyone - Page 3

wolf · 11-13-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

They could have run the headline "12 year old girl hides 18 year old boyfriend in bedroom." It's still a little shocking, but not going to sell as many newspapers as "Paedo hid under girl's bed."

"Little shocking???"

I don't know about where you are, but from where I'm sitting it's still downright horrifying. I wouldn't care if he were 13 or even also 12 at the time of the originating offense ...

lookout123 · 11-13-2006, 08:59 PM

you know, this whole discussion of whether he has been in prison or will be in prison could have been avoided if the arresting officers had simply pointed at the hole in the bed and asked him "at any point in time did you live in this room and hide in the bed of a 12 year old?" Once he replied in the affirmative, one well aimed shot through the back of the head would be enough. the why's and how's don't matter.

if that makes me a knee-jerk righty, so be it.

wolf · 11-13-2006, 09:08 PM

Seems to be in Britain, so the arresting officers don't have guns, they just get to carry around a polite sense of quiet authority. I really don't understand how they get anything done.

I watched the British show, Life on Mars, and it was very, very strange for me.

Ibby · 11-13-2006, 09:17 PM

It's a god-awful small affair
To the girl with the mousey hair...

lookout123 · 11-13-2006, 09:31 PM

no gun? ok, a single shot is out. it would take more than one smash from one of their sticks, but same concept.

wolf · 11-14-2006, 12:12 AM

I think that under British law they are allowed to look at him sternly, but if they cross the line into blatant contempt, the officers get reprimanded.

11-14-2006, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

I think this means that Jennings has been sitting in a jail cell for the last couple years. Past tense. Apparently you read this to mean he has been sentenced to be held in jail for a couple years. Future tense. This discussion must belong in the thread about differences in the way we speak in various countries.

If you go back and read the complete story, you come across the folowing sentence:

"Jennings, of Ashton-under-Lyne, Gtr Manchester, befriended the girl on a bus last year."

That tells me, anyhow, that he was only recently sentenced for his mis-deeds.

Ever hear of Stolkholm Syndrome? This is a syndrome that often happens to hostages who are completely at the mercy of their captures. They begin to side with the bad guys. Its a psychological mechanism for survival - side with the strong, not the weak. It happens to adults, and it probably happened to this poor little girl.

She had no place of refuge - the man was in her very bed, hiding. Who knew what threats he made or things he told her. That child was being raped - not havig consensual sex.

Aliantha · 11-14-2006, 01:35 AM

I've tried to point that passage out mari. Good luck in having it fall on ears (or eyes) that listen (or see).

By the way, I did try googling the name. All I came up with was some artist by the same name.

Maybe you could check your history glatt and share that link you had?

limey · 11-14-2006, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

...The Sun is way better than the National Enquirer.... boobies.

At the risk of lowering the tone, I think you'll find boobies on Page Three of The Sun, but perhaps the Sunday Sport would be more to you taste (boobies on every page, I believe).

glatt · 11-14-2006, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I've tried to point that passage out mari. Good luck in having it fall on ears (or eyes) that listen (or see).

See post 13, posted at the same time as your post 12.

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

By the way, I did try googling the name. All I came up with was some artist by the same name.

Maybe you could check your history glatt and share that link you had?

Sure. You've asked twice now. I'd be happy to run the Google News search again. It's slightly different this morning, but here are the results.

I skimmed through them yesterday and chose this one to open because it appeared in the summary to have actual facts about the case. You know, dates, ages, the location. That sort of stuff. A quick skimming of the article tells me it's more accurate, and not sensational like the Sun article. If this one had been posted in the first place, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

SteveDallas · 11-14-2006, 09:33 AM

OK, let's leave aside these other issues and look at logistics. Maybe my house is too small, but I just can't believe we could have a fifth person hiding in it and they wouldn't be noticed. I mean, I just this morning went in to my daughter's room to give my usual "It's time to get up and go to school, yeah, I know, I'm going to work even though I don't want to" spiel like I do every morning. Maybe I'm hopelessly naive but I just can't believe there could be somebody hiding in the room who avoid being caught for such an amount of time.

Stormieweather · 11-14-2006, 10:11 AM

I'm with you on that Steve...

Her parents never noticed? Heard anything? She was on a bus unchaperoned? Neighbors never saw a strange man coming and going?

A 12 yr old does not have the maturity to consent to sex. She has absolutely NO responsibility for this perv's actions. I will say that something was missing from that girl's life that no one noticed, so she recruited a stranger on a bus to fill it. How sad.

Stormie

Clodfobble · 11-14-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveDallas

Maybe I'm hopelessly naive but I just can't believe there could be somebody hiding in the room who avoid being caught for such an amount of time.

Besides that, "cutting a hole" large enough for a person in the underside of her bed, without anyone noticing sound or debris? Where did they get the tools for that? And supposedly this guy would sneak in and out of the house every day to get food. I really wonder how much time the guy was actually spending in the house. Did he sleep there every night? Regardless, though, this girl was seriously unsupervised.

yesman065 · 11-14-2006, 10:33 AM

I'm with Lookout - one shot, just one. Then again, maybe we could tie him to a post in the street and let the public decide. On this type of offense, I AM as right as it gets. No rehab, no why? or how? - I don't care - period. You violate a child - you die - hopefully very painfully. Sorry, just my point of view.

11-14-2006, 11:27 AM

My .02... one never knows the logistical situation.
Kids get raped by one parent without the other knowing, it happens. It has happened in my family, but there are always fools who like to talk of what they do not know who like to spout "she had to know"... Well, no, she did not and it is something she has to live with for the rest of her life.
However, I have a hard time with it too, logistically, how did he eat, shower, etc, without any evidence being present in the home? Smell is a very hard thing to cover-up and each person has their own set of distinctive smells, especially a man.
Not saying it is not possible, especially with her help... but very difficult under the best circumstances, very difficult.
Finally, if we just execute them, we are no better than they... worse actually.

11-13-2006, 08:59 PM	#32
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	you know, this whole discussion of whether he has been in prison or will be in prison could have been avoided if the arresting officers had simply pointed at the hole in the bed and asked him "at any point in time did you live in this room and hide in the bed of a 12 year old?" Once he replied in the affirmative, one well aimed shot through the back of the head would be enough. the why's and how's don't matter. if that makes me a knee-jerk righty, so be it. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-13-2006, 09:08 PM	#33
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Seems to be in Britain, so the arresting officers don't have guns, they just get to carry around a polite sense of quiet authority. I really don't understand how they get anything done. I watched the British show, Life on Mars, and it was very, very strange for me. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-13-2006, 09:17 PM	#34
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	It's a god-awful small affair To the girl with the mousey hair... __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-13-2006, 09:31 PM	#35
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	no gun? ok, a single shot is out. it would take more than one smash from one of their sticks, but same concept. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-14-2006, 12:12 AM	#36
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I think that under British law they are allowed to look at him sternly, but if they cross the line into blatant contempt, the officers get reprimanded. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-14-2006, 01:35 AM	#38
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I've tried to point that passage out mari. Good luck in having it fall on ears (or eyes) that listen (or see). By the way, I did try googling the name. All I came up with was some artist by the same name. Maybe you could check your history glatt and share that link you had? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-14-2006, 09:33 AM	#41
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	OK, let's leave aside these other issues and look at logistics. Maybe my house is too small, but I just can't believe we could have a fifth person hiding in it and they wouldn't be noticed. I mean, I just this morning went in to my daughter's room to give my usual "It's time to get up and go to school, yeah, I know, I'm going to work even though I don't want to" spiel like I do every morning. Maybe I'm hopelessly naive but I just can't believe there could be somebody hiding in the room who avoid being caught for such an amount of time.

11-14-2006, 10:11 AM	#42
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	I'm with you on that Steve... Her parents never noticed? Heard anything? She was on a bus unchaperoned? Neighbors never saw a strange man coming and going? A 12 yr old does not have the maturity to consent to sex. She has absolutely NO responsibility for this perv's actions. I will say that something was missing from that girl's life that no one noticed, so she recruited a stranger on a bus to fill it. How sad. Stormie __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

11-14-2006, 10:33 AM	#44
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	I'm with Lookout - one shot, just one. Then again, maybe we could tie him to a post in the street and let the public decide. On this type of offense, I AM as right as it gets. No rehab, no why? or how? - I don't care - period. You violate a child - you die - hopefully very painfully. Sorry, just my point of view.

11-14-2006, 11:27 AM	#45
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	My .02... one never knows the logistical situation. Kids get raped by one parent without the other knowing, it happens. It has happened in my family, but there are always fools who like to talk of what they do not know who like to spout "she had to know"... Well, no, she did not and it is something she has to live with for the rest of her life. However, I have a hard time with it too, logistically, how did he eat, shower, etc, without *any* evidence being present in the home? Smell is a very hard thing to cover-up and each person has their own set of distinctive smells, especially a man. Not saying it is not possible, especially with her help... but very difficult under the best circumstances, very difficult. Finally, if we just execute them, we are no better than they... worse actually.

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