Ding Dong, the witch is dead

[Shawnee123]

Thank you Brianna. I can't believe I let him get to me like that. You have put it back into perspective.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Thank you Brianna. I can't believe I let him get to me like that. You have put it back into perspective.

As near as I can tell you're both good and decent people. We all get pissed about stuff. The cool thing about this place is you can always try again unless you cross the intollerable line, which is well over the horizon from your position.

[Griff]

I've heard pretty good arguments for big time confiscation of assetts after death centered on getting people to be productive in their own right. Thing is, these kinds of taxes will be avoided by the same kind of people that take their parents assetts before putting them in nursing homes at our expense. Tax laws ought to be enforceable. It does seem pretty callous to take a multi-generation business a family has poured its heart into. I'm pretty leary of the destructive power of taxes generally. Maybe we should look at consumption taxes... *shrug* I'm pretty tired so I may be making no sense...

[9th Engineer]

I was lumping the inheritors of their parents wealth into that group of people that recieved money they didn't earn. I question the doling out of any sort of aid at the federal level, and would love to see someone get ballsy enough to tighten down on loose money faucets. Even if it costs more I think there would be some way to improve the continual processing of applicants and use the money saved to pay the extra people to do it. No money gained overall, but at least the money is going to people doing a job.
I don't know if society should take care of people who are facing hard times, I really see that as a responsibility of citizens. We throw so much stuff into the governments lap and then dust our hands off with a sigh of relief that we don't have to concern ourselves with it anymore.
Government wellfare will always be something to hang your head about, perhaps if people could be convinced to get their heads out of their asses we would be able to impliment something better

Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

I don't know if society should take care of people who are facing hard times, I really see that as a responsibility of citizens. We throw so much stuff into the governments lap and then dust our hands off with a sigh of relief that we don't have to concern ourselves with it anymore.
Government wellfare will always be something to hang your head about, perhaps if people could be convinced to get their heads out of their asses we would be able to impliment something better

Government is the responsibility of the citizens. If more people would wake up and remember that the government is elected by the people in order to do the people's bidding, we'd all be a lot better off. Most individual citizens couldn't give a rat's ass about the poor and needy disabled. How much do YOU contribute to the local battered women's shelter? How about to programs for kids born with developmental disabilities. When's the last time you made aREAL contribution to a food drive for the needy in your area - and I don't mean just throwing a can of generic canned corn into a basket.

I am on SSDI and I don't hang my head over it. I worked and paid into the system for 30 years of my life only to become disabled and end up with a "benefit" of $671.00/month plus $10.00 in food stamps. The American people are so lacking in concern for those in need that its a national disgrace.

Why don't YOU get your head out of your ass and learn about the REAL world - especially in the country you live in?

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by marichiko

Government is the responsibility of the citizens. If more people would wake up and remember that the government is elected by the people in order to do the people's bidding, we'd all be a lot better off. Most individual citizens couldn't give a rat's ass about the poor and needy disabled. How much do YOU contribute to the local battered women's shelter? How about to programs for kids born with developmental disabilities. When's the last time you made aREAL contribution to a food drive for the needy in your area - and I don't mean just throwing a can of generic canned corn into a basket.

I am on SSDI and I don't hang my head over it. I worked and paid into the system for 30 years of my life only to become disabled and end up with a "benefit" of $671.00/month plus $10.00 in food stamps. The American people are so lacking in concern for those in need that its a national disgrace.

Why don't YOU get your head out of your ass and learn about the REAL world - especially in the country you live in?

It's hard....seeing you this angry.......But I have to agree with you, even so perturbed..When did government and citizen become so divided? It didn't. This is the point.I eagerly agree to pay my taxes for the less fortunate. I am a citizen, and at different points in times I have governed. I am not alone in this.
The head in the ass is a matter of perspective. And I think the world might be the common denominator.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Thank you Brianna. I can't believe I let him get to me like that. You have put it back into perspective.

Yes, good job Brianna. When a couple of members go at a heated debate, the worst thing is people choosing sides..... contribute views and opinions, yes....but not taking sides based on popularity.

Originally Posted by marichiko

How much do YOU contribute to the local battered women's shelter?

Go to hell, I'm not battering any women to supply any damn shelter. :p

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Go to hell, I'm not battering any women to supply any damn shelter. :p

Nice try, Bruce, but I already know how kind you are. You can't fool me! You are one cool dude. I am humbled before you. So there!