Totally Gay

Pangloss62 · 11-08-2006, 06:06 PM

Well, after reading about "closet" psychology, this is anything but weird. It seems that closetting yourself leads to extreme manifestations of, as Savage said, what you "need."

In the end, I hope all this discussion will normalize homosexuality to a point where such "extremes" are not required to BE who you are.

9th Engineer · 11-08-2006, 08:14 PM

Lets not get too carried away with the idea that anyone has immutable traits. Who you ARE is a concept under constant flux, and has very little or nothing to do with genetics as long as we leave physical structure out of the picture. If someone loves to play the piano, can't for whatever reason we don't say that they can't be who they ARE.
Why can't we say that people ARE other things that they may or may not want to be in other cases, but we have to accept that sexual orientation inseperable from who a person is? If it's true, then wouldn't it also be true that we have other traits that others must accept at face value no matter what? Who gets to decide what these are?

(the thread was turning into the 1,000 list of gay figures/rant about how people need to stop questioning gay-ness, it needed some sprucing up)

Elspode · 11-08-2006, 08:55 PM

In this particular case, what the guy *is* is a bisexual pastor of a religion that doesn't allow him to be that way. I would be very interested in how *he* rationalized his homosexual behavior with his deity, and how he was able to condemn the acts while performing them.

I'd be even more interested to see how his mental health evolves as he tries to rid himself of this "affliction" under the loving supervision of his wife and whoever agrees to mentor his "recovery".

I think he should just love Jesus *and* Jose.

11-08-2006, 06:06 PM	#1
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	Another One Well, after reading about "closet" psychology, this is anything but weird. It seems that closetting yourself leads to extreme manifestations of, as Savage said, what you "need." In the end, I hope all this discussion will normalize homosexuality to a point where such "extremes" are not required to BE who you are. __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

11-08-2006, 08:14 PM	#2
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Lets not get too carried away with the idea that anyone has immutable traits. Who you ARE is a concept under constant flux, and has very little or nothing to do with genetics as long as we leave physical structure out of the picture. If someone loves to play the piano, can't for whatever reason we don't say that they can't be who they ARE. Why can't we say that people ARE other things that they may or may not want to be in other cases, but we have to accept that sexual orientation inseperable from who a person is? If it's true, then wouldn't it also be true that we have other traits that others must accept at face value no matter what? Who gets to decide what these are? (the thread was turning into the 1,000 list of gay figures/rant about how people need to stop questioning gay-ness, it needed some sprucing up) __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

11-08-2006, 08:55 PM	#3
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	In this particular case, what the guy is is a bisexual pastor of a religion that doesn't allow him to be that way. I would be very interested in how he rationalized his homosexual behavior with his deity, and how he was able to condemn the acts while performing them. I'd be even more interested to see how his mental health evolves as he tries to rid himself of this "affliction" under the loving supervision of his wife and whoever agrees to mentor his "recovery". I think he should just love Jesus and Jose. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

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