If you outlaw guns, then only....

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

It is very simple, if you don't want to exercise your right to own or carry, don't. See how easy?

Except he has already surrendered his right to the state. That's why we hear such sour grapes trying to rationalize why it's better to be disarmed. European, you know...

(I don't think anybody who's Googling up stuff from the Brady Bunch and --oh, my ghod-- *Mother Jones magazine*should be talking about "junk science").

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Of course no one was talking about banning guns. There is this little thing about responsible people having guns. Hundreds of thousands of new weapons on the street being carried by that other guy. Therefore Iraqi streets are clearly safer.... From the NY Times of 30 October 2006:

U.S. Is Said to Fail in Tracking Arms for Iraqis
The American military has not properly tracked hundreds of thousands of weapons intended for Iraqi security forces and has failed to provide spare parts, maintenance personnel or even repair manuals for most of the weapons given to the Iraqis, a federal report released Sunday has concluded. ...

The answers came Sunday from the inspector general’s office, which found major discrepancies in American military records on where thousands of 9-millimeter pistols and hundreds of assault rifles and other weapons have ended up. The American military did not even take the elementary step of recording the serial numbers of nearly half a million weapons provided to Iraqis, the inspector general found, making it impossible to track or identify any that might be in the wrong hands.

Exactly where untracked weapons could end up — and whether some have been used against American soldiers — were not examined in the report, although black-market arms dealers thrive on the streets of Baghdad, and official Iraq Army and police uniforms can easily be purchased as well, presumably because government shipments are intercepted or otherwise corrupted.

500,000 more guns. Clearly as number of guns increased, then the violence decreased.