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Old 10-24-2006, 09:37 AM   #1
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The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:41 AM   #2
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The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.

wow, very nicely put
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:49 AM   #3
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The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.
And to be conservative republican
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:25 AM   #4
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And to be conservative republican
I've known some very intelligent "conservative republicans" who aren't hyprocritical and do not like the hyprocritical party representations the politicians have become. Its all media, not fact. The majority of the doctrine, or ideals of the party are reasonable, those with the most media attention are not.
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:29 AM   #5
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Its all media, not fact.
The Liberal Media Conspiracy strikes again.
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:37 AM   #6
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I've known some very intelligent "conservative republicans" who aren't hyprocritical and do not like the hyprocritical party representations the politicians have become. Its all media, not fact. The majority of the doctrine, or ideals of the party are reasonable, those with the most media attention are not.
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The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception
My point was not about intelligence, hypocricy or reasonableness. It was that conservative repubicans want to force everyone else to have their values. They wouldn't have an abortion, so NOBODY should be able to have an abortion. Same with same-gender marriage, etc.

"dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?"


Think about it.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:09 PM   #7
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The Liberal Media Conspiracy strikes again.
The media is sensational not liberal.

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My point was not about intelligence, hypocricy or reasonableness. It was that conservative repubicans want to force everyone else to have their values. They wouldn't have an abortion, so NOBODY should be able to have an abortion. Same with same-gender marriage, etc.

"dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?"


Think about it.
They believe that abortion is tatamount to murder. Its only logically for them to try and ban it. The same-gender marriage stuff is BS I agree. BUT they aren't trying to force their values on others, they are trying to "protect" their value. Liberal Democrats do the same thing, everyone does this, its human nature. Conservatives say that abortion and gay marriage are wrong; liberals say that prohibit either is wrong.

Back to rkz's concern: You'll be fine, take the intolerance you have for certain people and change it into sympathy/empathy/pity for those people.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:16 PM   #8
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agreed 100% on these:

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The media is sensational not liberal.
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...take the intolerance you have for certain people and change it into sympathy/empathy/pity for those people.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:54 PM   #9
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I am intolerent of people who think that I have any responsiblity to them in any way. I whole heartedly agree with live and let live, and by that same measure with live and let die. Combine this with my philosophy that charity and philanthropy are to be applauded, but any good work by an individual that they could not choose is neither.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:57 AM   #10
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They believe that abortion is tatamount to murder. Its only logically for them to try and ban it. The same-gender marriage stuff is BS I agree. BUT they aren't trying to force their values on others, they are trying to "protect" their value. Liberal Democrats do the same thing, everyone does this, its human nature. Conservatives say that abortion and gay marriage are wrong; liberals say that prohibit either is wrong.
Please. If conservatives are "trying to "protect" their value" why do they support a constitutional ammendment to ban same-gender marriage? Seems to me that they are trying to force others to their way.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:26 AM   #11
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Please. If conservatives are "trying to "protect" their value" why do they support a constitutional ammendment to ban same-gender marriage? Seems to me that they are trying to force others to their way.
Because they see marriage as being only between a man and a woman. They are seeking to protect the sanctity of marriage. I personly think its a load of horseshit, because someone else's marriage shouldn't affect the sanctity of your own, but I do see their point of view. And like I've said liberals and conservatives are really no different, they just have different issues and reasons. Really our argument has turned into a squabble of symantics and I think that it should be dropped.
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