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Old 10-23-2006, 06:35 AM   #1
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OK, Gaiman is married to an American and has two American children, so that would make sense.
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Old 10-25-2006, 12:00 AM   #2
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Really Good News About Iraq

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The White House, meanwhile, announced that George Bush had stopped using the slogan, "Stay the course", while the president himself hammered a new buzzword: "Change". "We're constantly changing. The enemy changes, and we change. The enemy adapts to our strategies and tactics, and we adapt to theirs. We're constantly changing to defeat this enemy," he said, after visiting a Florida company making a device for sniffing out roadside bombs.
We've officially got a new slogan. The war is as good as won.

He can't use "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" because

a)It's already taken.
b)He'e pretty much counting on fear to maintain his power base.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:12 AM   #3
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For historical record - with 13 days to an election - George Jr has put forth new slogans. For example, he is now demanding benchmarks that Maliki (leader of Iraq) must meet. But he says he has no timetable. How is that so? Benchmarks without a timetable are useless.

Of course, even programmers learn about exceptions. What happens when the benchmark is not achieved? A programming writes error processing routines. But George Jr has no criteria for a missed benchmark. IOW that benchmark will never be missed because there is no timetable. Why no 'exception routines'? That answer is found in the last three paragraphs.

Clearly details in George Jr's logic are so flawed as to be a lie. But he is not preaching to those with enough intelligence to ask damning questions. He is not preaching to those who always demand what, why, and the numbers. He is preaching to those who know only because they were told by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.

"Stay the course", "Way forward", or "Mission Accomplished" are all soundbytes because a political agenda is more important that advancement of America. No wonder an insurgency was created when we disbanded the military and police. No wonder he still blames a mythical enemy called Al Qaeda. George Jr now admits Iraq has become worse (so that Urbane Guerrilla can say George Jr is not loopy). George Jr essentially admits "Mission Accomplished" will continue to get worse if we "Stay the course". What does George Jr (Cheney) propose?

We have three options. 1) 500,000 troops in-country immediately and for one year. 2) "Stay the course". Or 3) withdrawal. There are no other options. What George Jr has done: spin so that you don't notice. He is simply advocating "Stay the course" using different soundbytes.

That 500,000 troop option is quickly diminishing. Once that option is gone, there will be only one option. Withdrawal now or withdrawal after we have killed another 2,800 troops (as Urbane Guerrilla advocates). There is no other option ... if you reject sound byte logic and if you admit to reality. Deja vue Nam. So stunningly similar that we should be asking what they taught the 'under 40 year olds' in history class.

What are you being setup for? President made a solution impossible when he proclaimed that Americans don’t ‘cut and run’ (just like Americans don't do nation building). Henry Kissinger told this president, bluntly, that no exit strategy exist. Duh-h-h-h. George Jr has publicly stated that American troops will still be in Iraq when he leaves office (in2008) Why? George Jr's strategy – and those who rationalize using soundbyte logic would never realize this – his strategy is ‘blame and run’.

This from same person who obviously identified Iraq as not a threat by using logic. George Jr’s strategy is about his legacy - America be damned. Don't fool yourself. His contempt (like Urbane Guerrilla's) for the troops is that extreme.

George Jr needs a ‘blame and run’ option – which is ‘cut and run’ only after another thousand American soldiers have died. Deja vue Nixon and Vietnam. This posted for historical record because our future in Iraq is that bleak and because so many (ie Brianna and headsplice) do not yet understand.
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