A stunning report from ABC News?

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by Hippikos

Just give the man his bread and butter and fer crissake let's go on with some real serious business.

It's not *his* bread and butter...he doesn't have any. You just want to pay off another blackmailer. The "Danegeld and the Dane" all over again...you seem to have a habit of spending other people's money on the undeserving poor very freely.

[Hippikos]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

It's not *his* bread and butter...he doesn't have any. You just want to pay off another blackmailer. The "Danegeld and the Dane" all over again...you seem to have a habit of spending other people's money on the undeserving poor very freely.

MaggieL is, as usual, parrotting the official White House policy. Can't help wondering do you have an opinion of your own?

Kim wants bilateral negotiations and a non agression pact for which he would drop his nukluar program. The situation can be solved within weeks. The whole world travels on that road. And the game can be played--has been played, as the Clinton administration showed. But, as with Iran, common sense is in short supply with the Bush Guvmint, especially when a bully like John Bolton is doing the talks. The blackmailer did exactly what he predicted without any response of Bush. Bush unwillingness to negotiate is not a virtue, is a blunder of the first kind. What choice does he have? Another war is unthinkable with the current situation in Iraq and the possibillity of a SKorea massacre.

But incapable of executing even the basics of international diplomacy, the Bushites succeeded in letting the NKorea's situation getting out of hand. Also because of being fully tied up with a country that not even did possessed WMD's.

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Originally Posted by Hippikos

Kim wants bilateral negotiations and a non agression pact for which he would drop his nukluar program. The situation can be solved within weeks.

Kim needs more than that which is why weeks will not be long enough. Kim Jung Il must get a settlement that is so good as to buy off his 'big dics'. The price is now high. Without that deal, he will be killed as we believe they already tried in a railroad town adjacent to the China border.

When Jimmy Carter did the deal, that cost was trivial. DPRK's 'big dics' are now bragging about their ultimate 'big dic' weapons - atom bomb. Cost of a deal is now high.

Meanwhile Kim also knows the only reason why that Jimmy Carter deal was sabotaged - right wing extremist Americans. This week, Congressman Rohrbaugh was preaching his rhetoric on BBC interviews. Why? Rohrbaugh was all but bragging how he undermined that Jimmy Carter deal. Many Americans have little idea what a disasper Rohrbaugh, et al created. But South Koreans understand.

The only way that Kim Jung Il will get a deal is to make a bilateral deal with the US. A deal that the US cannot compromise on. He needs a deal that the US will commit to. DPRK 'big dics' will accept nothing less.

This is too complex for American 'big dics' who have a 'good verses evil' mentality - where perspectives do not exist. Meanwhile, appreciate how complex a DPRK agreement has become due to these American 'big dic' actions. If war on the Korean Peninsula does break out, remember how war could have averted last year. But George Jr (Condi Rice and Cheney) fear bilateral talks with North Korea. So DPRK developed nuclear weapons – each step announced intentionally well in advance. That atom bomb development program was all but on a negotiation table that George Jr refused to sit at.

Just another example of why people using a head between their shoulders avoid wars by learning from history.