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Old 10-18-2006, 03:44 AM   #1
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How often do people come to school armed, wave a gun around, and not end up shooting people?

Or: How often does someone confront unarmed innocents with a gun and it end peacefully?

How do the peaceful ends compare with the violent ones, in terms of frequency?

How many of those would still end peacefully, if it became a standoff or a hostile confrontation?

There should be options, yes; but is escalation the only one?

School shootings are predominately a phenomenon of contemporary America -- they existed previously, and they exist elsewhere, but we have more. Shouldn't we address the root causes (what makes people want to shoot up our schools), rather than the symptoms (them, armed, in a school)?
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:45 PM   #2
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Shouldn't we address the root causes (what makes people want to shoot up our schools), rather than the symptoms (them, armed, in a school)?
You must be kidding. Nothing will even be considered along those lines until somebody finally walks into CONGRESS and starts blazing away. There should be no shortage of volunteers for this honor. THEN we will see more "investigations" and legislation then we've had in the last 50 years
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:23 PM   #3
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You must be kidding. Nothing will even be considered along those lines until somebody finally walks into CONGRESS and starts blazing away. There should be no shortage of volunteers for this honor. THEN we will see more "investigations" and legislation then we've had in the last 50 years
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:16 PM   #4
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My schools are Weapons-Free Zones. It will stay that way.
You can try but that's exactly the reason these wackos are drawn to schools...... gun free, safe environment to act out their fantasies.

Arm Willie the Janitor so he doesn't have to rely on his bagpipes.
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Old 10-19-2006, 05:43 AM   #5
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You can try but that's exactly the reason these wackos are drawn to schools...... gun free, safe environment to act out their fantasies.

Arm Willie the Janitor so he doesn't have to rely on his bagpipes.
With this logic, EVERYBODY should have a gun?

I remember Saddam gave thousands AK47's away in Iraq just before the invasion. See the carnage that's happening now.
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Old 10-19-2006, 06:10 AM   #6
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With this logic, EVERYBODY should have a gun?

I remember Saddam gave thousands AK47's away in Iraq just before the invasion. See the carnage that's happening now.
Obviouly the guns caused it, since there were no problems in Iraq before then.

Not "EVERYBODY" should have a gun...criminals should be excluded. And people who aren't willing or able to handle their weapons responsibly. Beyond that it should be a matter of personal choice.
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:56 AM   #7
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Obviouly the guns caused it, since there were no problems in Iraq before then.

Not "EVERYBODY" should have a gun...criminals should be excluded. And people who aren't willing or able to handle their weapons responsibly. Beyond that it should be a matter of personal choice.
What do you think it caused? Smoking waterpipes? 300-600.000 people died in Iraq the last 3 years, of which 70% due to internal violence. This is much more than during Saddam times.

The US has the highest gun related deaths. Do you really think distributing more guns will lower that figure?

As I mentioned before Canada has about the same gun possession, yet much lower gun related death. Something to think about.
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:46 AM   #8
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My schools are Weapons-Free Zones. It will stay that way.
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You can try but that's exactly the reason these wackos are drawn to schools...... gun free, safe environment to act out their fantasies.
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With this logic, EVERYBODY should have a gun?

I remember Saddam gave thousands AK47's away in Iraq just before the invasion. See the carnage that's happening now.
If you disagree with my opinion....schools, being gun free zones, are a safe place to raise hell.....tell me why these wackos rarely chose police stations or military bases for their terrorizing?
Please note I did not say give everyone a gun or that schools should not be gun free zones.......except for arming Willie the janitor.
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Old 10-19-2006, 11:04 AM   #9
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If you disagree with my opinion....schools, being gun free zones, are a safe place to raise hell.....tell me why these wackos rarely chose police stations or military bases for their terrorizing?
Please note I did not say give everyone a gun or that schools should not be gun free zones.......except for arming Willie the janitor.
Post offices are not gun free zones, are they?
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Old 10-19-2006, 07:57 AM   #10
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... Nothing will even be considered along those lines until somebody finally walks into CONGRESS and starts blazing away. ...
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