If you outlaw guns, then only....

Originally Posted by MaggieL

Especially the fact that she's voting for someone else to provide the gun. Ever the good Socialist... :-)

What? Suggesting a vote is socialist? And I doubt that Ibram is going to go off on a murder spree because of a joking comment. UG might, though.

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by marichiko

What? Suggesting a vote is socialist?

No, wanting somebody else to provide for the gun is. (Wanting to subject matters of personal responsibiility to a popular vote only gets a collectivist "honorable mention".)

It's amusing that the impulse is so deeply ingrained in you that you couldn't figure that out (even though the key phrase is italicized).

Originally Posted by MaggieL

No, wanting somebody else to provide for the gun is. (Wanting to subject matters of personal responsibiility to a popular vote only gets a collectivist "honorable mention".)

It's amusing that the impulse is so deeply ingrained in you that you couldn't figure that out (even though the key phrase is italicized).

Maggie, stop taking yourself so damn seriously. It was a joke. Get it? J-O-K-E. While I don't advocate banning guns, I don't advocate giving them away for free, either.

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I think you could kill me with a gun. I'd like you to try to kill me with a rock or bat.

Heh! You gotta go to sleep SOMETIME! (That was a joke, too).

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by marichiko

Maggie, stop taking yourself so damn seriously. It was a joke. Get it? J-O-K-E.

Many a true word is spoken in jest. You reveal more of yourself then you'd like to sometimes.

Originally Posted by MaggieL

Many a true word is spoken in jest. You reveal more of yourself then you'd like to sometimes.

No, Maggie, you just have paranoid fantasies from reading too much Ayn Rand. Liberal does NOT = collectivist. I do NOT advocate turning the US into a socialist nation, only the Republic it was once intended to be. You're the one who is advocating the destruction of our personal liberties by saying torture, breaking the Geneva Convention, and throwing out the 6th Amendment is a wonderful thing. You reveal too much of yourself, also, Maggie. and your problem is that you're dead serious when you do it.

But its not worth arguing with you. You're a fundamentalist Neocon who worships Jr. as your savior.

[Hippikos]

Originally Posted by marichiko

No, Maggie, you just have paranoid fantasies from reading too much Ayn Rand. Liberal does NOT = collectivist. I do NOT advocate turning the US into a socialist nation, only the Republic it was once intended to be. You're the one who is advocating the destruction of our personal liberties by saying torture, breaking the Geneva Convention, and throwing out the 6th Amendment is a wonderful thing. You reveal too much of yourself, also, Maggie. and your problem is that you're dead serious when you do it.

But its not worth arguing with you. You're a fundamentalist Neocon who worships Jr. as your savior.

I bet MaggieL is looking under bed every night before going to sleep. There might be a socialist there...

"A man with a gun is a citizen, a man without a gun is a subject. Our forefathers knew this to be true..... Why do so many of us question their wisdom?"

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by marichiko

No, Maggie, you just have paranoid fantasies from reading too much Ayn Rand. Liberal does NOT = collectivist.

It shouldn't, but the socialists have contaminated a previously honorable philosophy. At one time, liberals were about all the civil liberties. Now to their shame they cherrypick, and the cherries they select are overripe.

I do NOT advocate turning the US into a socialist nation, only the Republic it was once intended to be.

I wish your arguments would actually show that that's what you're doing -- a summary or even better some links would be okay.

You're the one who is advocating the destruction of our personal liberties by saying torture, breaking the Geneva Convention, and throwing out the 6th Amendment is a wonderful thing. You reveal too much of yourself, also, Maggie. and your problem is that you're dead serious when you do it.

But its not worth arguing with you. You're a fundamentalist Neocon who worships Jr. as your savior.

This is how Marichiko admits her arguments aren't as good as yours. And how, in the typical left-idiotic mode, she tries childishly to make you feel bad for winning out over her.

The anti-Republicans and anti-patriots have raised loud and unbecoming objections to EVERY SINGLE TACTIC AND STRATEGY THAT HAS HAD ANY LIKELIHOOD OF WINNING THE WAR FOR US and I am sick unto projective vomiting of it. Please consider the nature of our enemies.

Mari is, on legs, a reason why I am no sort of leftist.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

... The anti-Republicans and anti-patriots have raised loud and unbecoming objections to EVERY SINGLE TACTIC AND STRATEGY THAT HAS HAD ANY LIKELIHOOD OF WINNING THE WAR FOR US and I am sick unto projective vomiting of it. Please consider the nature of our enemies.
...

Sometimes, being anti-repubican is being patriotic.
Sometimes, being patriotic means not going to war without good reason, or getting out of a war that has no upside for us, is exceptionally expensive, is decreasing our standing in the world community, is doing more harm than good, is causing the deaths of American troops, on and on and on.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by marichiko

And I doubt that Ibram is going to go off on a murder spree because of a joking comment. UG might, though.

Or I might just content myself with giving you an Atomic Counter-Rotating Tittie Twister. With spray-can whipped cream.

With the turn this part of the thread is taking, there might be some peripheral relevance to this in a thread I just started over in Philosophy: "Be Wary Of Strong Drink..."