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Old 08-26-2006, 10:06 AM   #1
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Basically, the British screwed up in Israel and Kashmir by leaving things half-done. The UN had to finish up in Palestine. The India/Pakistan split worked out much better, and occurred a few months before the Palestine partition.

The Arab League had the chance to accept the partition at that time, and had the example of Pakistan, but decided to refuse.
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Old 08-28-2006, 05:37 AM   #2
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The Jews were in the majority of the land partitioned to Israel by the UN.

The official UN estimate was 538,000 Jews and 397,000 Arabs (a number that included Christians, Bedouins, Druze, and others).
Palestine was inhabited by 2/3 Arabs and 1/3 Jews at the time of the division. Which btw was rejected by the Brits. Israel has declared the State of Israel unilaterally as it has always imposed all new borders, unilaterally.

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I'm sorry, when you say "Palestine", are you referring to British land which they intended as a Jewish homeland?
The Zionist movement knew where to concentrate their lobby Weizmann having close ties to Lloyd George and Balfour. Given this context then, the Balfour Declaration of 1917 can be seen as an effective tool for Britain to serve multiple ends. Seen through British eyes and from the perspective of late 1917, it would serve as a powerful propaganda tool aimed at the world’s Jewish community in hopes of securing additional financial support – cash contributions, loans, grants - to fill the depleted coffers of the Allied governments. Secondly, it would effectively preempt Germany’s ongoing efforts to enlist both informal and formal support from the Zionist movement. In a very real sense whichever side issued such a declaration first would effectively preclude any positive impact of the other side's efforts.
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Unfortunately they faced pogroms in Palestine so I'm sure many Jews weren't convinced it was safe.
Palestine was not safe for nobody. Jews were never shy to use terrorism to obtain their goal. Neither Brits nor Arabs were save for their terrorism. Google on Irgun, Hagganah, Stern Gang and you'll find some interesting names.

Whatever year is used, fact is that hundreds of thousands Palestines whos families lived there were ethnic cleansed, exiled, prisoned and live in reservates with no future, just for living here.
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If the Arabs would have sat down and shut up in 1947,
I asked before and I ask again, would YOU have shut up if your house was confiscated?
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Old 08-28-2006, 07:17 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Hippikos
Palestine was inhabited by 2/3 Arabs and 1/3 Jews at the time of the division.
And again, the portion allotted to Israel was majority Jews.
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Israel has declared the State of Israel unilaterally as it has always imposed all new borders, unilaterally.
Where "unilaterally" means "for defensive purposes, took the land via which they were attacked in a war, without asking the attackers their preference."

The withdrawl from Gaza was unilateral in the more traditional sense of the term. Unilateral Israeli withdrawl? That REALLY doesn't match your worldview, so you can't even see it, can you?
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I asked before and I ask again, would YOU have shut up if your house was confiscated?
"...and that's why international terrorism is justified."
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