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Old 08-22-2006, 01:26 PM   #1
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Wait a minute though, I never said anything about productivity levels. I only said it was the middle class itself that followed the pattern.
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Old 08-22-2006, 06:28 PM   #2
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Wait a minute though, I never said anything about productivity levels. I only said it was the middle class itself that followed the pattern.
OK. I then don't follow your point.

Meanwhile working hard is little rewarded. The concept was to work smarter; not harder. (Sometimes that means a dumb person is smart enough to hire a good lawyer or join a good union.)
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:33 PM   #3
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And what about those who do the jobs which aren't valued? Do they deserve to live badly? Are bricklayers worthless?
Everything and everyone has a value. A bricklayer has value because even if there are 1000 of them that can do a particular job, one of them has to do it. The value of semi-skilled labour might get the guy a modest appartment and a vacation to Disney Land every 15 years if he isn't stupid with his credit cards. It all depends on what you count as 'living badly'. He wouldn't be living on minimum wage also, a buddy of mine is making $11.75/h carrying boxes off trucks into K-Mart so I doubt that anything but bottom of the barrel fresh-out'a-highschool positions pay that poorly. It is not really that hard to make ends meet with a bit of smarts and commitment, your life will just be boring as hell.

Of course, if we are talking about the jaw-droppingly idiotic weirdos who pack the freezers at the Walmart I shop at, yes they do deserve to live badly. (Think of the guys from Jackass blended with a porn-addicted 13yr/old and the social savvy of a cow)
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:37 PM   #4
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tw, my original comment was back when someone made reference to the shrinking middle class in the US. The number of people was being taken as representative of other trends and the idea struck me as interesting.
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