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Old 08-10-2006, 01:42 PM   #1
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Haven't you heard? God hates you! That would worry me.
I can handle my relationship with God on my own, thanks. It's the Islamofacists that worry me.
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:23 PM   #2
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I can handle my relationship with God on my own, thanks.
Irrelevant. Your relationship with God isn't in question. You're dodging the issue.
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:26 PM   #3
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It's the Islamofacists that worry me.
Take a look in your own backyard. You are a walking "hot button issue" . . .
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:29 PM   #4
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Take a look in your own backyard. You are a walking "hot button issue" . . .
I can handle not being invited to the White House and not being able to marry my lifepartner if I can keep my guns and not have a stone wall pushed over on me. Notice that even Fred "God Hates Fags" Phelps has never shown up at a scheduled demonstration where the Pink Pistols had announced an intention to attend.

Don't lecture me about my backyard, son, I know where it is and who's in it. See "people like you" above. Note also that last month I was on one of the planes that was to be blown up this month.
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:47 PM   #5
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It's the Islamofacists that worry me.
Why do they worry you?
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Old 08-10-2006, 06:13 PM   #6
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You're right, Maggie. Nothing like what is going on in the Middle East could ever happen *here*. It isn't like we're seeing signs of growing fascism and restriction of public freedoms in our country right now. It isn't like we aren't trying to force other countries to do things according to our principles. And even if we are, it is for our own good, our own security. No one in *this* country would ever abuse such powers, they'll just use them for good.

Yup, just fearmongering, that's me.
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Old 08-10-2006, 06:40 PM   #7
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Nothing like what is going on in the Middle East could ever happen *here*.
Sure it could. They have an expressed intention to deliver it.

Of course, it's moral equivalance time again...I'm sure you can tell us again how Dubya is "just as bad if not worse". Or not...you're preaching to the choir (can he get an amen?), and the sinners have heard it before too.
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:37 AM   #8
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It isn't like we're seeing signs of growing fascism and restriction of public freedoms in our country right now.
That sentiment is not visibly based on actual anti-fascism in this country. It is visibly based on anti-Republicanism, and it's too specious to take me in. Tell me, are you forbidden to buy killing tools and ammunition to feed them in your city? If you're part of the armed electorate, you're part of an electorate that is about as powerful as an electorate is likely to get.

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It isn't like we aren't trying to force other countries to do things according to our principles. And even if we are, it is for our own good, our own security.
If other countries did follow our principles -- the real ones, so no hollering about this piece of foreign policy or that, if you please -- they'd be one hell of a lot richer, happier, and more peaceful than they are now. In short, they'd be successes instead of sores on the global body politic.

Addressing your second sentence there, what is so damned wrong with the principle that a republic of, by, and for the etceteras would prosper best in a world with more republics so constituted, so conceived and so dedicated? A good many of the oh gag me, it's a neocon set seem to find some problem here -- but explain their actual objection? Never in a million years! That's because their root objection is that they're fucking fascists and the necons not only aren't, but are actively after exterminating the fascists/communists/antihumanists/rabid bloodsuckers. This prospect gives the fascisto-commies a very uncomfortable case of bunched panties and seatcushion sucking. Well, every bit of the shame is all theirs. They could have been real democrats, but they chose to fuck it up.
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:59 AM   #9
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Don't get me wrong...both Dems and Republicans suck, in equal measure, in somewhat differing ways.

If the Dems were in power, I'd be dogging on them as well. The Constitution is the solution, folks, not the politicians.
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