Utilitarian Boobs

Flint · 08-04-2006, 04:23 PM

If you have a problem with breastfeeding then you are a sick, sick fuck and should be shot in the fucking head. The end. It's natural. You did it, we all did it. If you can't see a female breast without sexualizing it then you have issues. I'm talking to you, John Ashcroft.

glatt · 08-04-2006, 04:30 PM

There's public, and then there's public. If we were at a playground a park or something, my wife would have no problem breastfeeding. Toss a cloth diaper over the shoulder and it drapes down. No problem. Even without a cloth, the baby's head covers everything anyway.

But I can see how doing it in church or maybe at a restaurant table might cause some ruffled feathers.

A little discretion, and it's fine in public. Most mom's aren't going to want to breastfeed during a board meeting anyway.

Flint · 08-04-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

ruffled feathers

The same way that the Taliban got "ruffled" at female children being allowed to go to school? The same way that in some parts of Africa people get "ruffled" at the idea of a woman getting to keep her clitoris? I say: fuck them. They can get over it.

glatt · 08-04-2006, 04:40 PM

Actually, I didn't mean it that way at all.

9th Engineer · 08-04-2006, 04:46 PM

Flint, you're going on a tangent there. Not wanting to have images of a baby breast feeding while you're eating is understandable. Someplace like a movie theater or airplane where you can't always control proximity would be another inappropriate place to nurse. The mother needs to be considerate of the people around her in certain environments just as people in a park or public open area should be considerate of the mother. Please don't tell me you honestly think asking a woman not to suckle her baby in an inapproprate location is the same as locking her in a house or circumcising her.

richlevy · 08-04-2006, 06:54 PM

I remember driving my wife to her surprise wedding shower. My dad and I were the only men in the room at the restaurant. One or more of my cousins were breastfeeding at the table.

I'm not much of a drinker, but I believe that I did end up out at the bar.

jinx · 08-04-2006, 07:00 PM

Mothers have the right to feed their babies everywhere mother and baby have the right to be. If you don't like it, you can leave.
Everytime a mother offers a bottle instead of the breast she is one step closer to weaning. I haven't read the article, but I hope it pointed out at least some of the benefits of not weaning too soon, there are so many.

Flint · 08-05-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Not wanting to have images of a baby breast feeding while you're eating is understandable.

No, it isn't. Not to me. I don't understand it - not even a little bit. Breatfeeding is natural and healthy.

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Someplace like a movie theater or airplane where you can't always control proximity would be another inappropriate place to nurse.

It doesn't matter where you are. If you have a problem with breastfeeding then it is your problem. It is a natural, healthy thing.

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Please don't tell me you honestly think asking a woman not to suckle her baby in an inapproprate location is the same as locking her in a house or circumcising her.

The very idea that there is an "inappropriate location" for breatsfeeding is repulsive to me. Of course, it isn't on the Taliban-level of female repression, but it sure as hell springs forth from the same backwards-ass belief system. Defining the act of a mother feeding her baby as "inappropriate" (and expecting her to cater to your mental hang-ups!) is sick, sick, sick. I can't be any more clear about it than that. I disagree with you 100%.

Flint · 08-07-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Stormieweather

I'm of the opinion that the human body is not something to be ashamed of, and that breast feeding a baby is a perfectly natural function.

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Anyone that thinks this is 'disgusting' or a 'turn on' has some personal issues that have nothing to do with feeding a baby.

Apparently, the rebuttal to this is:

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Get back to me after you think of a more compelling argument than "you have personal issues" and can understand the difference between "it is a horrible, shameful act" and "please refrain in a few situations".

Which leads to the question: why would anyone have to refrain, in any situation, from doing something that there isn't anything wrong with doing in the first place? What is it that makes it wrong, in those situations where the only new element introduced is the reaction of an observer?

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Originally Posted by Flint

If you have a problem with breastfeeding then it is your problem.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-23-2006, 09:34 AM

Reading back over this thread,(yeah I like tits, so what) in the original link and the personal experiences of the posters, I noticed all the objections that were made in public places were by women by women?

Could it be behavior issues women have, having covering them up being drilled into their heads from youth?

Or, are they just selfish bitches that don't want their husbands/boyfriends seeing any strange, possibly better, boobs?

BlacKat1980 · 09-15-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

But I can see how doing it in church or maybe at a restaurant table might cause some ruffled feathers.

Aren't churches family places? And we all eat at restaurants, why can't our babies. Like it was mentioned earlier, it's not like ladies are "whipping" them out swinging with tassles or yelling out for people to have a good old perve. It is done quietly and discreetly. If people are embarrased at seeing a baby have a meal then they should stay away from places where babies are "allowed" to.

glatt · 09-15-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

A little discretion, and it's fine in public.

I wish you had taken this message from my post. I'm in favor of breastfeeding, and would like more moms to be doing it for longer, and feel free to do it in public.

However, while I can imagine a discreet breastfeeding in church being just fine, I can also imagine a feeding in church being less than discreet and being distracting, taking attention away from where it belongs. You wouldn't eat a pizza in church would you? There's a time and place for everything. Also, I was imagining a fancy restaurant when I wrote that part about restaurants. It's really a moot point, because people typically don't bring babies to fancy restaurants. But I think a baby should not be fed at the table in a fancy restaurant. There is a certain atmosphere that others are expecting, and a breastfeeding baby doesn't fit in with that expectation. Unhealthy food aside, a mom breastfeeding in McDonalds would be just fine.

With a minimal amount of discretion, breastfeeding in public is just fine, and I support it.

BlacKat1980 · 09-15-2006, 12:43 PM

If people are distracted from the sight/sound of a baby feeding while in church then they probably weren't really concentrating in the first place. Babies decide when they are hungry, which is more distracting-a screaming hungry child or a woman with a baby attached to her breast for twenty minutes? I know of a few churches in my area that actually have a room where they can see and hear the whole service from and can sit with babies/children who might be noisy or causing distraction (because lets face it, kids hate sitting quietly for an hour or more!). Why should mums have to miss out on socialisation simply because they've had a baby? Is that fair? breastfeeding isn't dirty or unhealthy, or unsanitary.

08-04-2006, 04:23 PM	#1
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	If you have a problem with breastfeeding then you are a sick, sick fuck and should be shot in the fucking head. The end. It's natural. You did it, we all did it. If you can't see a female breast without sexualizing it then you have issues. I'm talking to you, John Ashcroft. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-04-2006, 04:46 PM	#5
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Flint, you're going on a tangent there. Not wanting to have images of a baby breast feeding while you're eating is understandable. Someplace like a movie theater or airplane where you can't always control proximity would be another inappropriate place to nurse. The mother needs to be considerate of the people around her in certain environments just as people in a park or public open area should be considerate of the mother. Please don't tell me you honestly think asking a woman not to suckle her baby in an inapproprate location is the same as locking her in a house or circumcising her. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

08-04-2006, 06:54 PM	#6
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	I remember driving my wife to her surprise wedding shower. My dad and I were the only men in the room at the restaurant. One or more of my cousins were breastfeeding at the table. I'm not much of a drinker, but I believe that I did end up out at the bar. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

08-04-2006, 07:00 PM	#7
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Mothers have the right to feed their babies everywhere mother and baby have the right to be. If you don't like it, you can leave. Everytime a mother offers a bottle instead of the breast she is one step closer to weaning. I haven't read the article, but I hope it pointed out at least some of the benefits of not weaning too soon, there are so many. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

08-23-2006, 09:34 AM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Reading back over this thread,(yeah I like tits, so what) in the original link and the personal experiences of the posters, I noticed all the objections that were made in public places were by women by women? Could it be behavior issues women have, having covering them up being drilled into their heads from youth? Or, are they just selfish bitches that don't want their husbands/boyfriends seeing any strange, possibly better, boobs? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 04-07-2007 at 05:50 PM.

08-04-2006, 04:30 PM	#2
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	There's public, and then there's public. If we were at a playground a park or something, my wife would have no problem breastfeeding. Toss a cloth diaper over the shoulder and it drapes down. No problem. Even without a cloth, the baby's head covers everything anyway. But I can see how doing it in church or maybe at a restaurant table might cause some ruffled feathers. A little discretion, and it's fine in public. Most mom's aren't going to want to breastfeed during a board meeting anyway.

08-04-2006, 04:40 PM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Actually, I didn't mean it that way at all.

09-15-2006, 12:43 PM	#13
BlacKat1980 You did what!!? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northern Victoria, Australia Posts: 28	If people are distracted from the sight/sound of a baby feeding while in church then they probably weren't really concentrating in the first place. Babies decide when they are hungry, which is more distracting-a screaming hungry child or a woman with a baby attached to her breast for twenty minutes? I know of a few churches in my area that actually have a room where they can see and hear the whole service from and can sit with babies/children who might be noisy or causing distraction (because lets face it, kids hate sitting quietly for an hour or more!). Why should mums have to miss out on socialisation simply because they've had a baby? Is that fair? breastfeeding isn't dirty or unhealthy, or unsanitary. __________________ *NO REGRETS!! :p*

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