How we know what we know: utter denial in human beings

Good point , Ridgeplate . It is also a very white American point , as was Undertoad's . Both your complementary points are valid , of course . Perhaps we choose to count when it is in our interest ? And how many tears have you counted in The Trail of Tears ?

And in America , do they do what they do in France , Ridgeplate ? Whenever there is a public demonstration , the trade unions give one figure , and the police a much lower one .

(There are no more public demonstrations in the United Kingdom , by the way . Mrs Thatcher managed to kill all the trade unions , and no one dares to demonstrate against capitalism in the UK any more .)

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by Buddug

Good point , Ridgeplate . It is also a very white American point , as was Undertoad's .

Points apparently now have race and nationality...that's ever so much more interesting than just having validity. Now one can be racist or nationalist about a point without any people actually being involved. Would pointing out that "Bolshevik" was not in fact the "majority party" at the time also be a white American point? One must think so now.

I guess we'll deprecate Orwell's observations on language and politics too...perhaps not American, but certainly white. Clearly guilty of excessive occidentalism.

And here is a point that may be a white American point without the speaker even being white. A miracle!