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Old 06-07-2006, 03:04 PM   #16
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You're still missing my point. Everyone is assuming we all share an immutable definition of what defines someone as a child. I think we'll hear the argument made that 'child' only describes those under 12 years old, not teenagers.
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:50 PM   #17
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The thing is that it is not illegal to be a pedophile, it is only illegal to act on it. (& please don't say that if someone is a pedophile they will act on it. Not true. People get help.)
I have had this discussion on another board and people keep forgetting that.
The one point that was made that is funny is that these groups always throw out a cookie. For them it is "vote for us and get free train rides!", how stupid do they think people are?
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Old 06-07-2006, 04:45 PM   #18
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You're still missing my point. Everyone is assuming we all share an immutable definition of what defines someone as a child. I think we'll hear the argument made that 'child' only describes those under 12 years old, not teenagers.
You could hear any argument, it's a free country. People can make any argument they like. If someone tries to shut down NAMBLA for making the argument, the ACLU may support them, but they won't support the argument itself.

Just for note, the current federal age of consent guidelines are "12 if the age difference is under 4 years, 16 otherwise", and a few states have their own.
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Old 06-24-2006, 04:52 AM   #19
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Just for note, the current federal age of consent guidelines are "12 if the age difference is under 4 years, 16 otherwise", and a few states have their own.
Interesting, HM, I wasn't aware of Federal guidelines, I'd thought it was all the several States. Link to a source on this?
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Old 06-24-2006, 07:48 AM   #20
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Interesting, HM, I wasn't aware of Federal guidelines, I'd thought it was all the several States. Link to a source on this?
How about http://www.ageofconsent.com. Contains a page on PL 105-314 which may be HM's "Federal guideline".
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Old 06-24-2006, 07:49 AM   #21
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It appears to obviously silly to be real. Sounds more like a joke. Or maybe an attempt by anti-pedophile political forces to incite more hate of pedophiles? That attempt to change the law just too absurd to be real. Maybe instead be ashamed of a bad joke.
Bit late, but it's no joke, they're completely serious. They see this as an attempt to make pedophility normal and more mainstream.
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Old 06-24-2006, 07:58 AM   #22
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How about http://www.ageofconsent.com. Contains a page on PL 105-314 which may be HM's "Federal guideline".
That's probably it. Though it looks like for the federal rule to kick in you have to do something "interstate", which is probably pretty loosely interpreted.
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