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Old 06-03-2006, 06:47 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
This war has taught me something you won't hear many places, democracy cannot unite people. Democracy is the eventual creation of a people already united by common morals and above all else the understanding that life is sacred. I do not see this in these people.
This George Jr administration intended to *fix* the world by imposing democracy. Democracy must be earned - as Lebanon demonstrates only after how many dead in a civil war. Democracies not tempered by pain (by other bad forms of government) just do not survive. Democracy is only appreciated when it is earned.

Meanwhile, we have put best Americans in an impossible situation. And like in Vietnam, soldiers will commit crimes when put into these impossible situations. In Afghanistan, we had six to twelve months to upgrade a country. We did nothing. We did not even fix the water system in Kabul as promised. So again, democracy has no chance. We foolishly thought a country would fix itself without any planning. As demonstrated in WWII, Churchill and Roosevelt were planning for peace even before the US had yet fought a major battle. Planning for peace - which is THE purpose of war - must start that early. Notice what is 'purpose of war'.

Our current leaders have so much political knowledge without a grasp of history. Therefore American troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan are now in impossible, 'no win' situations. Just like in Vietnam, it is a situation only ripe for massacres and other atrocities. There is no strategic objective in either country. Therefore no victory is possible and no exit strategy exists. A situation that can only be solved by a massive troop deployment (500,000 men) or solved by getting out. The status quo means both countries will get worse.

Initial report suggest a massacre in Ishaqi did not happen. Rumsfeld has declared that US troops are not trained to massacre. So what does that mean? It means he is in denial. It means he believes the status quo, no strategic objective, no exit strategy, and number of troops is all sufficient. IOW an impossible situation will remain.
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