The Mozilla Organization's Phoenix - Page 2

perth · 10-02-2002, 10:22 AM

what do you do with 10 tabs? i start losing track of what im doing after around 4. i keep the cellar in one, my email in another, and 2 for surfing. i cant imagine needing 10.

mozilla crashes on me maybe 1-2 times a day. fair tradeoff, i think, for the features it provides (no unrequested windows!)

~james

juju · 10-02-2002, 10:24 AM

Galeon has an option where if it crashes, when you re-load it, it re-opens all the webpages that you had open when it crashed.

10-02-2002, 11:14 AM

Mozilla hasn't crashed on me since 1.0RC1. Phoenix hasn't crashed on me yet. Chimera "unexpectedly quit" once. Dunno how you people are having such problems.

hermit22 · 10-02-2002, 11:37 AM

Yeah, I've been using Phoenix almost exclusively since it was released and I haven't had a problem yet. Mozilla seemed way more crash-prone, but that may have been from bloat.

10-02-2002, 11:38 AM

By the way, for those who don't know - 0.2 of Phoenix is out. Go get it.

Undertoad · 10-02-2002, 12:01 PM

I get about one crash per week of Mozilla, with a *ton* of use.

It's far better than it was a year ago, when nightly builds would bring about one crash per day. For me, on reliability, it's on par with IE, no better no worse. (That's not considering security.)

hermit22 · 10-02-2002, 01:43 PM

My only problem with Mozilla is in how it renders pages. Even CNN, which has a banner showing its affiliation with Netscape on top, doesn't display correctly (although it does just fine in IE).

jaguar · 10-02-2002, 07:55 PM

hermit22 - thats the fault of the page designer, not Moz. I'm with Ut - i get the occasional crash, but i use it every day a heap so. Once you've got the plugins going (which should be more streamlined or included really, it could be quite a turnoff for a newbie if they did not understand how to get flash) its a damn sweet browser.

i still use IE for onlien banking though, moz seems to utterly mangle it.

Mjk · 10-03-2002, 01:44 AM

Have anyone else noticed that Mozilla would eat up all memory after being running about a week without restarting? I have a Mozilla 1.1 under Windows NT 4.0 at work running 24/7. It would eat up all available memory thus crashing all applications including the Mozilla itself.

jaguar · 10-03-2002, 02:03 AM

I've noticed it does go up if i left it for a few days, leaking somewhere, nothing too serious though.

Tobiasly · 10-03-2002, 08:51 AM

So Dave, how ya liking 0.2?

Torrere · 10-03-2002, 02:27 PM

Since my connection is dismal, I have a habit of clicking on links and loading them in the background while I read a page. I've had many occasions where I have had 40 to 50 tabs of Mozilla open. I also suffer from "oh this is cool i'll click here" syndrome. When I still used IE I kept running into the limitations of the Windows taskbar.

Mozilla only crashes once every few weeks on me. A few days ago, I had the opportunity to watch on Win2k's Performance meters while Mozilla was crashing. It was pretty cool; everything greyed out inside the window and then Mozilla drifted upwards and upwards in memory usage for approximately a minute until it spat out an error and died.

10-03-2002, 03:01 PM

Liking it quite a bit. I use it for browsing at work and at home (except on Mac OS X, where I use Chimera, which is a stripped-down Mozilla for... Mac OS X

). It's definitely faster than Mozilla, and it's been plenty stable for me so far, so no complaints.

I also dig that I can customize the toolbar (almost) exactly how I want it. Now if I could make the location bar shorter and add bookmarks to the main toolbar, life would be complete. Hopefully in 0.3 or 0.5 or something.

Cam · 10-17-2002, 04:04 PM

version 0.3 is out. seems faster to me, at least so far.

Tobiasly · 10-17-2002, 07:25 PM

I'm using 0.2 on my laptop. Seems pretty stable so far, but I miss some of Mozilla's features. Looks like it's maturing quite nicely though.

10-02-2002, 11:37 AM	#19
hermit22 sleep. Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: So Cal. Posts: 257	Yeah, I've been using Phoenix almost exclusively since it was released and I haven't had a problem yet. Mozilla seemed way more crash-prone, but that may have been from bloat. __________________ blippety blah bluh blah blah

10-02-2002, 01:43 PM	#22
hermit22 sleep. Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: So Cal. Posts: 257	My only problem with Mozilla is in how it renders pages. Even CNN, which has a banner showing its affiliation with Netscape on top, doesn't display correctly (although it does just fine in IE). __________________ blippety blah bluh blah blah

10-02-2002, 07:55 PM	#23
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	hermit22 - thats the fault of the page designer, not Moz. I'm with Ut - i get the occasional crash, but i use it every day a heap so. Once you've got the plugins going (which should be more streamlined or included really, it could be quite a turnoff for a newbie if they did not understand how to get flash) its a damn sweet browser. i still use IE for onlien banking though, moz seems to utterly mangle it. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

10-03-2002, 01:44 AM	#24
Mjk Writer of Writings Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 14	Have anyone else noticed that Mozilla would eat up all memory after being running about a week without restarting? I have a Mozilla 1.1 under Windows NT 4.0 at work running 24/7. It would eat up all available memory thus crashing all applications including the Mozilla itself. Last edited by Mjk; 10-03-2002 at 01:48 AM.

10-03-2002, 02:03 AM	#25
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	I've noticed it does go up if i left it for a few days, leaking somewhere, nothing too serious though. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

10-02-2002, 10:22 AM	#16
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	what do you do with 10 tabs? i start losing track of what im doing after around 4. i keep the cellar in one, my email in another, and 2 for surfing. i cant imagine needing 10. mozilla crashes on me maybe 1-2 times a day. fair tradeoff, i think, for the features it provides (no unrequested windows!) ~james

10-02-2002, 10:24 AM	#17
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Galeon has an option where if it crashes, when you re-load it, it re-opens all the webpages that you had open when it crashed.

10-02-2002, 11:14 AM	#18
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Mozilla hasn't crashed on me since 1.0RC1. Phoenix hasn't crashed on me yet. Chimera "unexpectedly quit" once. Dunno how you people are having such problems.

10-02-2002, 11:38 AM	#20
dave Guest Posts: n/a	By the way, for those who don't know - 0.2 of Phoenix is out. Go get it.

10-02-2002, 12:01 PM	#21
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I get about one crash per week of Mozilla, with a ton of use. It's far better than it was a year ago, when nightly builds would bring about one crash per day. For me, on reliability, it's on par with IE, no better no worse. (That's not considering security.)

10-03-2002, 08:51 AM	#26
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	So Dave, how ya liking 0.2?

10-03-2002, 02:27 PM	#27
Torrere a real smartass Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,121	Tabs Since my connection is dismal, I have a habit of clicking on links and loading them in the background while I read a page. I've had many occasions where I have had 40 to 50 tabs of Mozilla open. I also suffer from "oh this is cool i'll click here" syndrome. When I still used IE I kept running into the limitations of the Windows taskbar. Mozilla only crashes once every few weeks on me. A few days ago, I had the opportunity to watch on Win2k's Performance meters while Mozilla was crashing. It was pretty cool; everything greyed out inside the window and then Mozilla drifted upwards and upwards in memory usage for approximately a minute until it spat out an error and died.

10-03-2002, 03:01 PM	#28
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Liking it quite a bit. I use it for browsing at work and at home (except on Mac OS X, where I use Chimera, which is a stripped-down Mozilla for... Mac OS X ). It's definitely faster than Mozilla, and it's been plenty stable for me so far, so no complaints. I also dig that I can customize the toolbar (almost) exactly how I want it. Now if I could make the location bar shorter and add bookmarks to the main toolbar, life would be complete. Hopefully in 0.3 or 0.5 or something.

10-17-2002, 04:04 PM	#29
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	version 0.3 is out. seems faster to me, at least so far. __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

10-17-2002, 07:25 PM	#30
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	I'm using 0.2 on my laptop. Seems pretty stable so far, but I miss some of Mozilla's features. Looks like it's maturing quite nicely though.

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