One more job for immigrants

[tw]

Originally Posted by Shocker

Ok, well first off, I don't have any personal agenda like tw suggested, other than of course looking out for the best interests of my family. I do not know any illegal immigrants, and I do not fear losing my job or anything else to an illegal immigrant. I do however, believe that the laws of our country should be respected and followed. And there is a real reason to worry about the immigration issue. Al-Qaeda operatives, just as easily as Mexican migants, can cross our borders and do harm to us. We know they want to. But the cost and complexity in making exeptions to the law is too high to not protect our borders.

Did you forget to first learn what security people have demonstrated? Long before 11 Sept, we routinely identified and stopped domestic terrorism without Fatherland Security, without torture, without lies such as Orange alerts, and without hyping fear.

You would know that if you always first asked questions such as why. And then you would also know a new administration shut down, demoted, and quashed existing protection systems in a proclamation that only Saddam was a threat. One FBI agent asks why his bosses were not charged with criminal negligence because they quashed every attempt to stop 11 September. Of course you knew that because you want to protect your family. Unfortunately too many blindly believe in law obedience without first asking questions - and end up promoting death. You did not ask why which explains the classic Al Qaeda myth.

If first asking questions, they you understood who Al-Qaeda terrorists are. Domestics. Those you so fear don't need porous borders. You knew this once you ignored political agenda propaganda - ie Rush Limbaugh. Your political handlers forgot to mention that? You forgot to ask of them embarrassing questions? Only if you have a classic personal agenda.

You were asked to address the problem. Your entire response was nonsense about strict law enforcement and myths about terrorists. Classic blind response without first learning underlying reasons. Without those underlying reasons, your answer lacks credibility - is classic of a personal agenda. Worse, your answer implied you don't want to know why. Devoid of what is required to be a patriotic American.

Shocker - this is not a personal attack? It is an appeal for you to change from anti-American (blindly answering as ordered by a poltical party - Democrat, Republican, or Communist) to being patriotic American (someone who first askes embarrassing questions). The question was why. Why do we have an immigration problem? Avoid that question by using classic personal agenda reasoning - as an anti-Ameican would do to blindly follow a party line. This time, address why a problem exists without Rush Limbaugh proclamations. Don't foolishly play the Al Qaeda card. Posting myths is akin to insulting. Long before drawing any conclusion, first ask why - as a patriotic American does. Why do we have an immigration problem - and therefore put the future of your family also at greater risk?

[xoxoxoBruce]

What? People shouldn't have to answer for breaking the law unless someone has a hidden agenda? Nonsense. The law is on the books and it doesn't matter why, when someone is caught breaking it. Guilty?....end of story.

Now if you don't like the law....want it changed or repealed, only then does the "why" enter into it. Why was it enacted? Why can't it be repealed? Then you can get into all the hidden agendas and conspiracy theories you want.

But while it's in effect it should be enforced.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But while it's in effect it should be enforced.

I think the problem is that it hasn't been enforced for a reason that is quite clear -- we need cheap labor. The reasons stated for needed enforcement (i.e. - security) are essentially used to push politics.

This really is a mess.

[xoxoxoBruce]

It's more like selective enforcement against those that are of no value to the people with political clout.
That's why I'd like to see it enforced across the board.