Rumsfeld Rebuked By Retired Generals

skysidhe · 04-15-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

If I comment any further on this thread, we'll have to move it into Conspiracy Theories.

Fact is sometimes stranger than fiction. Life imitating art and all those time worn phrases couldn't be more true regarding this Administration.

Nostradamus and Bible's predictions make it creepy. Modern day authors make it maddening,shocking.

richlevy · 04-15-2006, 11:32 AM

What is scary is how dismissive everyone is of tactical, not strategic, nuclear weapons, as if a nuclear bunker buster is just a small step up from a MOAB.

It almost seems as if they cannot comprehend exactly what kind of provocation this would mean and how many people this would move off the fence to actively fight us.

The whole problem I have with Manicheism is the unshakable belief among some practitioners that it is impossible for white hats to get dirty, that good is always good no matter what despicable acts are done.

I could almost picture the next day commentary on new channels around the world. Of course, the next day banter on Fox Network would consist of "Well, it had to be done." and "About time!"

kaylar · 04-15-2006, 01:50 PM

It is usual, In America, that the President (or Vice President, or Secretary of State) is an experienced soldier. Whether a General or an Officer, it is basically
how a nation which has engaged in war, virtually non-stop since 1776 administrates its government.

This is the first time that the United States has a President who can not even be honoured with the term 'draft dodger' or 'anti-war' due to his avoidance of what he felt was an unjust war, but a President who connived to avoid fighting in Viet Nam, not because of political/moral reasons, but cowardice.

It takes a lot of courage to have Protested the War in Vietnam. It takes cowardice to have sat back and 'supported' the war, but not with one's blood.

That all three; Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld avoided the draft while supporting the war made them unfit for office.

That all three have absolutely no idea what it is like to be a soldier, no idea
what a war demands of a man, of a nation, but could dishonestly send people to die for an unjust cause, based on a known lie, profit through the war, Halliburton, Oil Prices, and supply the cheapest garbage to the soldiers who are fighting in Iraq, requires an entirely different vocabulary.

04-15-2006, 11:32 AM	#2
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	What is scary is how dismissive everyone is of tactical, not strategic, nuclear weapons, as if a nuclear bunker buster is just a small step up from a MOAB. It almost seems as if they cannot comprehend exactly what kind of provocation this would mean and how many people this would move off the fence to actively fight us. The whole problem I have with Manicheism is the unshakable belief among some practitioners that it is impossible for white hats to get dirty, that good is always good no matter what despicable acts are done. I could almost picture the next day commentary on new channels around the world. Of course, the next day banter on Fox Network would consist of "Well, it had to be done." and "About time!" __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

04-15-2006, 01:50 PM	#3
kaylar Resident-in-Training Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7	OLD SOLDIERS....NOT It is usual, In America, that the President (or Vice President, or Secretary of State) is an experienced soldier. Whether a General or an Officer, it is basically how a nation which has engaged in war, virtually non-stop since 1776 administrates its government. This is the first time that the United States has a President who can not even be honoured with the term 'draft dodger' or 'anti-war' due to his avoidance of what he felt was an unjust war, but a President who connived to avoid fighting in Viet Nam, not because of political/moral reasons, but cowardice. It takes a lot of courage to have Protested the War in Vietnam. It takes cowardice to have sat back and 'supported' the war, but not with one's blood. That all three; Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld avoided the draft while supporting the war made them unfit for office. That all three have absolutely no idea what it is like to be a soldier, no idea what a war demands of a man, of a nation, but could dishonestly send people to die for an unjust cause, based on a known lie, profit through the war, Halliburton, Oil Prices, and supply the cheapest garbage to the soldiers who are fighting in Iraq, requires an entirely different vocabulary.

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