Russ makes a fuss

Griff · 03-14-2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

I knew I was doing some bad writing there but I had to get to work. I was referring to the LPs comittment to the Bill of Rights and to FDR's famous "freedom from" speech. Two different concepts of what constitutes freedom.

richlevy · 03-14-2006, 08:26 PM

I already heard this ridiculed and lambasted on Fox 'fair and balanced'. One guy even used the 'T' word again.

Happy Monkey · 03-14-2006, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

I knew I was doing some bad writing there but I had to get to work. I was referring to the LPs comittment to the Bill of Rights and to FDR's famous "freedom from" speech. Two different concepts of what constitutes freedom.

They're the same concept, really. You can't have one without the other in any meaningful way.

Griff · 03-15-2006, 05:48 AM

No. That is a very personal thing. What you are calling freedom I'd call security and it comes at the cost of others' freedom. I would say that the first generation of Americans were more free than we are now but by the "freedom from" definition they were less free. People chose the frontier because they were free to risk ashedding the limitations of their society. This is why the federal system had so much potential before it was essentially destroyed, folks could choose the level of risk they were willing to take by living in a place that matched their personal definition. I understand that we live in a mass society now and the frontier is closed but people are the constant.

03-14-2006, 08:26 PM	#2
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03-15-2006, 05:48 AM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	No. That is a very personal thing. What you are calling freedom I'd call security and it comes at the cost of others' freedom. I would say that the first generation of Americans were more free than we are now but by the "freedom from" definition they were less free. People chose the frontier because they were free to risk ashedding the limitations of their society. This is why the federal system had so much potential before it was essentially destroyed, folks could choose the level of risk they were willing to take by living in a place that matched their personal definition. I understand that we live in a mass society now and the frontier is closed but people are the constant. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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