Isolationism

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Well unlike that HUMBUG, he's restricting most of the crap to two threads and making some interesting points.

Actually, In the cellar's old age nobody got banned, it was a tradition. In the Internet era there are far too many purposeful trolls and assholes and attention whores to maintain that policy. I personally have come to the conclusion that moderation is, sadly, necessary.

It's impossible to make everyone happy with any level of moderation, but more people are happy with it than without it. Some people think there is a prinicple at stake here, but having to ban one spammer per day has really changed my mind about that. It makes it clear there is content we simply won't put up with, and no principle worth protecting that speech.

[xoxoxoBruce]

DOV’s problem is limited comprehension. Seeing several thousand people screwed by Katrina and wailing on TV leads to the assumption the US will fold in an emergency. Forgetting that millions were severely affected by that storm. Millions are coping and moving ahead without making the news. Millions are being helped by other millions under the radar. That’s the problem of viewing the world through the media.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

DOV’s problem is limited comprehension. Seeing several thousand people screwed by Katrina and wailing on TV leads to the assumption the US will fold in an emergency. Forgetting that millions were severely affected by that storm. Millions are coping and moving ahead without making the news. Millions are being helped by other millions under the radar. That’s the problem of viewing the world through the media.

Nice to see your paying attention.

Do not be "intolerably irritating".

The meaning of that last item is of course open to interpretation. But basically, if you are a troll, attention whore, moron, spammer, single-issue hammer or otherwise non-community oriented, you may be removed and banned and whatever else is required to keep your ass away from the place

In other words you can ban someone here because the hierarchy does not like him or her.
No wonder this Forum is so meat and potatoes.
We will see…

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Sorry I wasn’t more diversified. My attention at times was caring for a couple of threads I began which had well over 100 posts. I am like that; I take care of my threads. Multitasking is not my forte. Maybe you can teach me?

Consider it is not I. Consider you are narrow minded, and the status quo must be defended at any cost. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolute. Sleep on it.

TV leads to the assumption the US will fold.

It is inevitable. Babylon will fold.

Originally Posted by Dov

Sorry I wasn’t more diversified. My attention at times was caring for a couple of threads I began which had well over 100 posts. I am like that; I take care of my threads. Multitasking is not my forte. Maybe you can teach me?

Er... You know, now that I think about it, why don't you just stay with your pet threads?

The Cellar? Meat and potatoes? Its more like a giant smorgasboard. I think I'll go read the "What's for lunch" thread now.

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Originally Posted by dov

In other words you can ban someone here because the hierarchy does not like him or her.

And yet you're still here, although most find you to be as pathetic a figure as we've seen.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

And yet you're still here, although most find you to be as pathetic a figure as we've seen.

Undertoad, nice to know who is the spokesperson for the we'ves is.

Well, I would say this Forum either tops or is pretty dam close at being at the top of Message Boards which judges the poster and not the post. Hey, if it works for you, go for it. My posts may change but I wont. We will see how its resolved, I am not leaving, even though most who have judged me are pretentious holier than thou hypocrites.

Its fun attempting to put one down isn’t it? It takes so little brainpower, schoolyard posturing.

I believe the States are decadent and that feeds terrorism and will ultimately be the States downfall. The amount spent on an illegal invasion and the subsequent murder of 100k innocent Iraqis, same bucks spent in narrowing the rift between third world and the decadent ones would have made a profound effect in lowering terrorism. It would have defused it.

I believe the states is being run by born again evangelicals whose ultimate goal is to herd all of the world Jews into the west bank, slaughtering thirteen million, the worlds total population of Jews, minus 144,000 who will be saved due to conversion, all this to bring back Jesus.

I don’t believe in borders especially walled ones.

I have a small pimple on my shoulder, lets focus on the pimple, k?
Who wants to pop it?

Originally Posted by dov

The amount spent on an illegal invasion and the subsequent murder of 100k innocent Iraqis, same bucks spent in narrowing the rift between third world and the decadent ones would have made a profound effect in lowering terrorism. It would have defused it.

I believe the states is being run by born again evangelicals...

Dov, you have two and a half sentences in your post that would actually make for a reasonable discussion or debate. The problem that you have which is even worse than your writing style, is that you "single issue hammer," in the words of UT.

We all understand how horrific the holocaust was (and Jews weren't the only group targeted for extermination, BTW). We all understand that certain groups would like to see Israel destroyed. We all understand that certain Evangelicals actually do have the agenda you described in mind.

However, society, politics, and life in general are a complex, intersecting web of beleif's, actions, nations, and philosophies. You are like someone who is standing in the middle of a burning forest and concentrating on a single tree that might or might not catch flame when you could be out helping dig a fire line around the entire thing.

Let's say that you are correct, and the US ultimately falls completely into the hands of whacko's who expect the book of Revelations prophesy that you have outlined to come true. Its really hard to go there, even in hypothetical land, frankly. I can envision a hypothetical US that restricts more and more freedoms, just as it is currently doing. I can go to a hypothetical land where the US government becomes ever more repressive. But you are asking us to waltz off to a hypothetical land where the US rounds up every Jew on the face of the earth, forcibly transports them all to Israel, and then exterminates them all a la Hitler, except for 144,000 lucky ones who make nice to the concentration camp guards

The logistics alone of this are mind boggling. There are so many more possible future scenarios of atrocities that are far more plausible than yours. It is an interesting idea to bring up once, but to keep whining away about it really does place you in the lunatic fringe catagory.

Helpful Hint: Do not show up on a US board and make blanket accusations of how awful we all are. I post to the boards where there are Brit's, Canadians, Aussies, etc who are quite dismayed by current US policies. They talk about the need for reform in their own countries, as well, and they don't hate me or other people from the US who post there just because we are Americans. Some of us might actually have been on your side if you were posting stuff that was slightly more in the realm of sanity and if your over-all attitude was slightly less derogatory.

Thank you for your thoughtful post and recommendations.

Yes I do stand in the middle of a forest fire and focus on one tree.
I have no affect on the forest, just possibly the tree.

I beleive in what I post.

I don’t care what anybody thinks of me. Nobody knows me. (You will grow to love me.)

Many of you address yourselves as we. Have you noticed?

I have never had a need to be a part of we.

I truly appreciate your post.

Originally Posted by marichiko

Let's say that you are correct, and the US ultimately falls completely into the hands of whacko's who expect the book of Revelations prophesy that you have outlined to come true. Its really hard to go there, even in hypothetical land, frankly. I can envision a hypothetical US that restricts more and more freedoms, just as it is currently doing. I can go to a hypothetical land where the US government becomes ever more repressive. But you are asking us to waltz off to a hypothetical land where the US rounds up every Jew on the face of the earth, forcibly transports them all to Israel, and then exterminates them all a la Hitler, except for 144,000 lucky ones who make nice to the concentration camp guards

The logistics alone of this are mind boggling.

Could you, in your wildest dreams about six years ago, envisioned where we are standing today? I won’t list the atrocities, I will just say, the logistics, which brought us to this reality, today, alone are mind-boggling. One example, eight trillion. There are 1000 more examples of this twilight zone. I can’t focus on the thousand. I would become saturated. Simply one at a time is how I work.

Ten percent of the world’s population are Born Again Evangelicals. I will worry for both of us, unless you are one of those who spark the flame to fry us.