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Old 02-10-2006, 01:44 PM   #1
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Maybe if Humbug bothered looking for other interpretations rather than using my handle for insult, then maybe Humbug would have discovered the obvious.
I could have, but that would have been speculation.

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It means he might see through lies of a mental midget president
Maybe if TWat bothered looking for other interpretations rather than using Bush for insult, then maybe she would have discovered the obvious.

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it means he might become too intelligent to believe a mental midget.
Tsk-tsk.

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Instead it is easier to insult.
And more amusing when it's a radical loony.

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About 300 kidnapping every month are reported in Baghdad. Other (unreported) kidnappings is (sic) estimated as well over 300 meaning that Baghdad probably has much more than 600 kidnappings a month.
Bullshit.

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But don't worry. The president said Baghdad residents like this new lifestyle - even though interviews on the BBC of Iraqi residents say otherwise.
More bullshit. Bush never said they like kidnappings you sick prick. But they did like their first free elections. Many great photos of them flaunting their purple thumbs. The only purple they had on their bodies under Saddddam was from amputations and beatings.

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However Iraqis are optimistic. They are looking forward to the day that Americans leave.
As are we all.

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That will happen when? Not until after the invasion of Iran - according to George Jr intentions.
There you go again...more mindreader bullshit hyperbole. Just how the fuck do you know his intentions? Tea leaves? Counting spider barks?

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We need those 14+ premanent bases to stage attacks on Iran especially since a critical base in Uzbekistan was lost. Is this too much reality for you?
Nope, it's a land grab for luxury resorts.

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Or are you waiting for Rush to tell you how to think?
Rush? Never touch the stuff.

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Ok Humbug. Here is your oppurtunity (sic) to show all that you can respond like an adult. That means no insults AND that means logical thoughts. It is a challenge - like PBS fund raising. Can you do it?
Sure, infantile Bush-basher. Can you?

Try posting something rational instead of the same old lame radical left crap and you'll get a different response.
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Old 02-16-2006, 05:44 PM   #2
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This could have also been posted in another discussion on this same topic entitled Perverting science for politics where stem cell research, EPA and air quality, logging, Hubble Space Telescope, Union of Concerned Scientists, a Democratic summary About Politics & Science The State of Science Under the Bush Administration (which includes lead in the drinking water is acceptable), science that contradicts Genesis (the bible), hydrogen as a fuel, a silly Man to Mars program, denial of 'over the counter' emergency contraceptives, Philip A. Cooney (a lawyer) who rewrote science papers for the White House, and The White House’s White-Out Problem .

From the NY Times of 16 Feb 2006:
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Call for Openness at NASA Adds to Reports of Pressure
Top political appointees in the NASA press office exerted strong pressure during the 2004 presidential campaign to cut the flow of news releases on glaciers, climate, pollution and other earth sciences, public affairs officers at the agency say.

The disclosure comes nearly two weeks after the NASA administrator, Michael D. Griffin, called for "scientific openness" at the agency. In response to that, researchers and public affairs workers at the agency have described in fresh detail how political appointees altered or limited news releases on scientific findings that could have conflicted with administration policies.

Press officers, who were granted anonymity because they said they were still concerned for their jobs despite Dr. Griffin's call for openness, said much of the pressure in late 2004 was placed on Gretchen Cook-Anderson. At the time, Ms. Cook-Anderson was in charge of managing the flow of earth science news at NASA headquarters. ...

In a conference call with colleagues in October 2004, the colleagues said, she said that Glenn Mahone, then the assistant administrator for public affairs, had told her that a planned news conference on fresh readings by a new NASA satellite, Aura, that measures ozone and air pollution, should not take place until after the election. ...

Dr. Griffin announced the review of communications policies after complaints last month by James E. Hansen, the agency's top climate scientist, that political appointees were trying to stop him from speaking out on global warming. After those complaints were reported in The Times, other scientists and press officers came forward with similar stories.
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Old 02-16-2006, 06:53 PM   #3
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I wonder if the ban extended to papers submitted for publication in professional journals outside NASA's realm of influence? Lot's of nasty implications, if so. And, er, isn't freedom of the press involved here, as well? Bushco's actions come to resemble those of Hitler's pre-war Germany more every day.
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Old 02-20-2006, 06:32 PM   #4
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From The Washington Post of 20 Feb 2006:
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Navy Counsel Issued Warning On Torture
The Navy's general counsel warned Pentagon officials two years before the Abu Ghraib prison scandal that circumventing international agreements on torture and detainees' treatment would invite abuse, according to a published report. ...

The July 7, 2004, memo recounted Mora's 2 1/2 -year effort to halt a policy that he feared would authorize cruelty toward terrorism suspects.
IOW torture was an agenda intended at highest levels of government. Torture was considered two years before Abu Ghriad. This must be wrong because we all know those enlisted men brought those dog collars and leashes with them to Iraq. Clearly without officer knowledge since officers are not charged.
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A U.N. report issued last week called for the United States to close its prison at Guantanamo Bay. In response, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld rejected accusations of torture or abuse and said the detention facility is well-run.
Rumsfeld is religious. He would not lie. Therefore what does he mean by 'well-run'. Well-run as defined by extremist religious leaders in America who approve of torture?

BTW, Pennsylvania residents get to vote for Sen Rick Santorum - who approved of actions that resulted in torture. He is now trying to distance himself from previous statements - statements made before those pictures from Abu Ghriad arrived. Santorum is a strong leader and representative of religious Republicans and believes in imposing his religious beliefs in American law.
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:31 AM   #5
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BTW, Pennsylvania residents get to vote for Sen Rick Santorum - who approved of actions that resulted in torture. He is now trying to distance himself from previous statements - statements made before those pictures from Abu Ghriad arrived. Santorum is a strong leader and representative of religious Republicans and believes in imposing his religious beliefs in American law.
Ummm - I'll be voting AGAINST Rick Sanitarium. That will be regardless of whom he runs against.
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