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Old 01-06-2006, 08:04 PM   #1
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9/11 taught this country that we are not living in Neverland anymore.
9/11 taught this country that this adminstration stifled good Americans from uncovering and stopping 11 September. 9/11 taught us that this president was so in denial as to blame someone who was a threat to no one - Saddam. Badgerino knows this but somehow forgot to remember those facts. 9/11 taught us that the president does not even read his own memos - as even his own Secretary of Treasury Paul O'Neill reports.

America is attacked only when we decide to become a colonial power. We said we would leave the Middle East after Kuwait was rescued. We lied. We did not leave. The world changed starting 1 Aug 1990. America that could have demonstrated why America was a good and honest nation, instead, began to impose American principles on others. To discover why America is threatened, start with those damning numbers. American popularity dropped from 70% approval rating to 15%. Therein lies why is it now dangerous to adverstise an American citizenship. This problem created when extremists decided to fix those other nations rather than let those other nations fix themselves.

Previously, the French were more often attacked and threatened. Who now has an international approval rating worse than the French? Thank you George Jr for making Americans a target.

Those living in hate assume that other people always hate or are jealous of Americans. Same liars that also created and now deny this 15% approval rating.
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Old 01-06-2006, 08:39 PM   #2
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9/11 taught this country that this adminstration stifled good Americans from uncovering and stopping 11 September. 9/11 taught us that this president was so in denial as to blame someone who was a threat to no one - Saddam. Badgerino knows this but somehow forgot to remember those facts. 9/11 taught us that the president does not even read his own memos - as even his own Secretary of Treasury Paul O'Neill reports.

America is attacked only when we decide to become a colonial power. We said we would leave the Middle East after Kuwait was rescued. We lied. We did not leave. The world changed starting 1 Aug 1990. America that could have demonstrated why America was a good and honest nation, instead, began to impose American principles on others. To discover why America is threatened, start with those damning numbers. American popularity dropped from 70% approval rating to 15%. Therein lies why is it now dangerous to adverstise an American citizenship. This problem created when extremists decided to fix those other nations rather than let those other nations fix themselves.

Previously, the French were more often attacked and threatened. Who now has an international approval rating worse than the French? Thank you George Jr for making Americans a target.

Those living in hate assume that other people always hate or are jealous of Americans. Same liars that also created and now deny this 15% approval rating.
I think that we are very closely politically aligned and I agree with what you write. My sarcasm may have been too subtle, but my opinion is that before 9/11 the American people tended to think that terrorism is what happened in other countries such as Israel or Northern Ireland which lived with terrorism for years. 9/11 brought it home that it can happen here (hence, "Neverland", but we lost our innocence). Terrorism can be like the difference between a sniper and a sharp shooter--it depends which side you are on. This does not make it right, but often terrorism is not created in a vacuum. Terrorists do hate and are jealous of Americans, but there are undoubtedly other ingredients that go into their making. Foreign policy decisions made my this country over the years by this country have not helped. If these same type of things had happened in the United States would there be some Americans with right-wing religious fanaticism who would become "snipers" or "sharp shooters"?

Badgerino, a blue-state, bit "L" Liberal Democrat who is proud of it and justifiably so considering who is in charge now.
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:54 AM   #3
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9/11 taught this country that this adminstration stifled good Americans from uncovering and stopping 11 September.
Okay, so 9 months of Bush is responsible for what 8 years of Clinton isn't.

I think I'm starting to get it.

That was sarcasm.
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