12/6/2005: Naked PETA protest

[SmurfAbuser]

Originally Posted by Karenv

Well not only do they kill lots of animals, donated by people who expect that an animal rights group is a group that has a no-kill policy, .

If you expect that any of the major animal rights groups has a "no-kill" policy, you haven't done your homework. Neither the HSUS nor the ASPCA is no-kill, either. Approximately 4 million cats and dogs are euthanized every year in the U.S.--there are simply too many of them. No-kill shelters look great on paper, but with huge numbers like that, they don't work. I volunteered at a county-run shelter for years. If a 10-year-old, agressive shepherd mix with health problems comes in, he is not going to get adopted. If 200 kittens come in in one week, they are all not going to get adopted, either. Sad but true, they will be euthanized when their five days are up, and the same probably holds true for the animals PETA, the HSUS and the ASPCA take in. It's not the shelter's fault, it's the fault of people who keep breeding animals and treat them like disposable objects.

Not to bum everybody out or get on a soapbox, but as someone who has been in the trenches, it's pretty easy to point fingers at those who are forced to do society's dirty work.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by SmurfAbuser

snip~~ Sad but true, they will be euthanized when their five days are up, and the same probably holds true for the animals PETA, the HSUS and the ASPCA take in. ~~snip

Everything you say is true. BUT, PETA was picking up healthy animals, killing (euthanizing) them in the pick-up van and dropping them in dumpsters. This was a pair of PETA's home base workers.

The people that work for PETA are, for the most part, genuinely passionate about the welfare of the animals. They volunteer or work for little money to try to make a difference.
The problem is the organization is rotten at the core. The people at the top are about money, violence, imposing their views on everyone at any cost.
The warm and fuzzy save the puppies and kitties image they promote is a sham. The real agenda is to make everyone a vegetarian with no pets….no matter who gets hurt.

[SmurfAbuser]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Everything you say is true. BUT, PETA was picking up healthy animals, killing (euthanizing) them in the pick-up van and dropping them in dumpsters. This was a pair of PETA's home base workers.

Yeah, I did hear about that incident, and it's inexcusable. I'm not here to try to defend PETA (I don't have time for that!), but I highly doubt that it is their written policy to euthanize animals in vans and dump them dumpsters. They're not that stupid, nor in my opinion, are they all that evil. From my understanding it was two rogue workers acting on their own accord, for whatever bizarre reason.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The warm and fuzzy save the puppies and kitties image they promote is a sham. The real agenda is to make everyone a vegetarian with no pets….no matter who gets hurt.

The vegetarian thing is propably accurate, but not the pets part. They actually have a really helpful Web site about caring for cats and dogs that I've referred people to many times (HelpingAnimals.com). If they wanted to get rid of all pets, wouldn't they just be telling people to dump them by the side of road or take them to a shelter where they'll be euthanized? They wouldn't be giving advice about the best kinds of food to give your cat or training tips for your dog.

I agree there's problems with PETA, and there are also problems at the HSUS, your local shelter, whatever. You can't just tell them "don't euthanize that cute little puppy!"--unless, of course, you're willing to take in that puppy and every other one like it.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by SmurfAbuser

From my understanding it was two rogue workers acting on their own accord, for whatever bizarre reason.

The "rogue workers" excuse is getting a little thin.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by wolf

The "rogue workers" excuse is getting a little thin.

What are the other incidents?