Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.....

[Cyclefrance]

After my last disastrous attempt at an interesting thread, Hope this one might prove more suuccessful.

Can't remember what we were really discussing at the time that prompted it (age-related short-term memory issues!), but had some interesting exchanges over Rin Tin Tin and Rusty with Wolf and others, and that got me thinking that there were probably lots of areas where a bit of communal participation could lift the fog on partially remembered memories.

There's almost a useful age reference thing here as well. When you're not sure about someone's age, then a quick: 'do you remember....' finishing with something date related should give you a guide to the real age of a person (and whether your assumptin is right or not) -e.g. (mainly for UK subscribers - but pleased to hear your US and other country equivalents):

Do you remember:

Born
1950-1955 - Muffin the Mule, Rag Tag and Bobtail
1956-1960 - Mick and Montmorency, frozen jubblies
1961-1965 - When the first James Bond movie was released, Mods and Rockers
1966-1970 - Watching the first moon landing, seeing England win the World Cup
1971-1975 - ....well, you get the picture

Following on from the Rin Tin Tin episode we touched also on Range Rider who was played by Jock Mahoney. Range Rider had a sidekick caled Dick, I think, played by Dick Weston who then went on to have his own series as Young Range Rider(?) - now whatever happened to Dick Weston? Then there were those other two - Cisco Kid and... (what WAS his Mexican partner's name - see what I mean...?)

Incidentally we have young (well not so young now) Jimmy Osmomd over here about to start in a reality show known here as 'I'm a Celebrity - Get Me Out of Here!' which involves 10 so-called celebrities being placed in the Australian jungle/bush and having to survive 'x' weeks - the public gradually whittling down the remaining ones by voting to eject one candidate every few days. There's other voting for individuals to perform various 'trials' to gain food for their colleagues - usually involving spiders, snakes and various other creepy-crawlies. Much as normally I hate reality TV shows, this one does have a certain charm about it!

Oh, well over to you. Will put my two-penn'th in as and when appropriate....

[Undertoad]

This is a difficult but very interesting game!

Was AIDS a major concern [1986-present] when you were in high school [age 15-18]? Born after 1968. College? Born after 1964.

Was Pee Wee's Playhouse enormously popular [1986-1990] when you were a kid [age 7-11]? Born 1975-1983.

Do you remember Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Green Jeans? (50's)
Who was the first family on your block with a TV? (late 40's to early 50's)
How about those fun "duck and cover" drills in elementary school? (50's)
Where were you when JFK was shot? (60's)
Where were you when the Challenger exploded? (80's)

[Cyclefrance]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

This is a difficult but very interesting game!

Was AIDS a major concern [1986-present] when you were in high school [age 15-18]? Born after 1968. College? Born after 1964.

And who remembers Herpes (clearly late 70's early 80's as the main forerunner sexual issue pre AIDS) - god, we were checking under toilet seats and everything to make sure there was no chance of picking up that nasty little infection (didn't it feature in that murder mystery film with Michael Caine as the psychiatrist and Angie Dickinson (of Policewmman fame) as the victim?)

[wolf]

Herpes wasn't really stressed here in the US. The only really big deal thing about it that I remember was from Ice Pirates.

Eh, you're what - 10 years or so younger than me, Wolf? It was a big deal at the time, even here. People worried a lot about catching it and there was much debate about how it could be transmitted.

[Trilby]

The whole herpes freak-out was stupid. If you've had a cold-sore, you've got herpes. Fuggitabout it.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by marichiko

Do you remember Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Green Jeans? (50's)

I remember them, and I'm not 30 yet... They had a long run.

[Tonchi]

Originally Posted by Cyclefrance

Then there were those other two - Cisco Kid and... (what WAS his Mexican partner's name - see what I mean...?)

The Cisco Kid was the first television show to be shot completely in color. Cisco was played by Duncan Renaldo, who never was noticed for anything more in the USA, but his "sidekick" is somebody known well to all Southern Californians. Leo Carrillo was one of the most outstanding citizens of early Los Angeles, his career in movies and theater went back to the 1920's. His family actually owned Coronado Island in San Diego at one time. Fortunately for all of us, he spent his considerable earnings buying land on the coast and always shared it with anybody who would appreciate the wild and beautiful area. His investments in this land made him very rich, but he never changed from the generous person that everybody loved. A huge tract in the Los Angeles Hills near Malibu was donated by him late in his life, becoming Leo Carrillo State Park, so that it would never be developed and people could enjoy the way California was before the sprawl arrived. His work in conservation and philanthropy changed the face of Los Angeles and his popularity and influence was so great that he even brokered the Hearst Castle acquisition by the State. Many parks and public features of Los Angeles are there because of Leo Carrillo. It makes me very proud to say that a person of Mexican ancestry, although born here, has given us so much of what is good and beautiful in Southern California today. His foresight touches everybody who lives or visits there today.

[Cyclefrance]

Originally Posted by Brianna

The whole herpes freak-out was stupid. If you've had a cold-sore, you've got herpes. Fuggitabout it.

Oh yeah?? Depends where that cold sore is situated....!! Cold sores are Herpes Zoster. The nasty little bugger down below is Herpes Simplex (it's OK, I only know that from hearing it on all those radio phone-in progs that were so popular in the late 70's - I think one here was called 'The way it is'
with the strap line: 'You'll never know the way it was until you here 'the way it is'!')

What about Dick West (not Dick Weston) and perhaps it was Buffalo Bill Jr rather than Young Range Rider (the cells in that area of my brain have definitely taken a holiday...)?

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I remember them, and I'm not 30 yet... They had a long run.

Damn! They must have had Alzheimer's by time YOU got around to watching them. I bet they were HILARIOUS! (for once )

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Cyclefrance

Cold sores are Herpes Zoster. The nasty little bugger down below is Herpes Simplex

Isn't chicken pox also a form of herpes?

[Happy Monkey]

Mr. Moose never got older.

[Tonchi]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Isn't chicken pox also a form of herpes?

It has been proven that if you have never had chicken pox, you will not catch herpes. Herpes is a "retro-virus", after you recover from chicken pox the virus is still in your body forever and if you suffer a physical or emotional trauma it may show up again. Sometimes very elderly patients develop herpes sores for the first time. Doctors now believe it is resident in the nervous system of our bodies, and most outbreaks occur in the most "sensitive" parts of the body.

Although the chicken pox episode is the common denominator, sometimes the first time an adult is exposed by somebody with a cold sore, for instance, they actually get sick for up to a week, with fever, glandular swelling, headaches and light sensitivity as well as the awful pain of the developing sores. These are the worst symptoms that chicken pox has to offer, adults have actually died of chicken pox because it hits them so much harder than for the children. Unfortunately, herpes is the gift that keeps on giving. After you survive the first part, you have not by any means seen the end of it

[Cyclefrance]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Isn't chicken pox also a form of herpes?

Yes, it is. And as Tonchi says the vius remains ormant inside your system. IT can re-emerge when you are run down - hence cold sores arse when your resistence lowers during that illness.

Also herpes zoster is behind shingles, an illness that attacks the nervous system, again as a result of having the virus dormant in your system.


But what about Dick West...?????