Copycats in Alcohol - Page 2

elSicomoro · 07-15-2002, 09:13 PM

I have never had scotch before...I should try it.

I do like a good vodka tonic or gin and tonic...heavy on the sauce of course.

I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER touch Jim Beam again after a particularly nasty experience in college.

perth · 07-15-2002, 09:41 PM

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I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER touch Jim Beam again after a particularly nasty experience in college.

i used to say that about tequila.

lemonade and cheap tequila with table salt do not a good margarita make.

~james

elSicomoro · 07-15-2002, 09:57 PM

Backwoods margaritas, eh?

One night, my friend's mom was out of town, and she allowed some of us to stay over. So, my friend decided we were going to have a strict "cheap beer" party. No A-B or Miller products allowed. The beers of choice that night were Hamm's, Olympia, Black Label, and Stag (a St. Louis favorite). Truth be told, I didn't feel too bad until I tried to eat something the next day. That cheap shit will do a number on ya.

perth · 07-15-2002, 10:29 PM

yeah the margaritas were bad enough. the part that really sucked tho, was the next night we still had half a bottle of tequila but no more lemonade. whats a poor college student to do? shots, of course. oh well, i made my peace with the vile liquid, and now i can enjoy margaritas again, but in moderation.

~james

Griff · 07-16-2002, 06:06 AM

The Mrs and I like to swim the Cuervo Especial waters, usually in margarita form but sometimes just for sipping. Cheap beer, cheap whiskey, cheap gin and cheap wine are all fine but cheap tequila can't be good for yah. hmm I almost started a little ditty there... na its to early.

warch · 07-16-2002, 09:51 AM

Tequilla in moderation, in a good margarita-Fresh lime only....rocks, and salt, ya gotta have salt! but shots.....shheesh...It hits like no other spirit.

elSicomoro · 07-19-2002, 07:03 PM

I think I'm going to try that new Sauza drink tonight...might as well give 'em all an equal shot.

elSicomoro · 07-20-2002, 10:07 AM

Okay, so I bought the new Sauza drink, called Diablo. It's not bad...it definitely has a different taste than the others...it tastes more lemony. I think I like the Smirnoff/Skyy/Stoli variety better.

Someone apparently was playing with the 6-pack, because there was one Captain Morgan Gold beverage in the pack. Blecch! That shit was nasty. I'm not really a fan of rum to begin with, and this just had too much of a rum taste to it. Although, I would imagine that it has no rum in it...otherwise, it couldn't be sold in a "beer" store here in PA.

jaguar · 07-20-2002, 07:36 PM

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do tell...

Red bull and usually something like a cruiser. More..powerful version is 25% vodka, or 50% vodka and red bull. Best not to have more than bout 5 though, can be deadly.

Ah....tequila slammers...the flavour equivilent of a thermonuclear explosion....fun......Many mighty hangovers from them.

I still can't enjoy G&ts after gettin g a 2 day hangover courtesy of those and rum&coke, learnt my lesson never to mix spirits. That was a bad, bad night. Lets the few bits i remember.

MaggieL · 07-20-2002, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by warch
Scotch is wonderful for its subtleties. I recently tried a bit of smokey Oban. Made me warm all over! I'm kinda liking the sweetness of Irish whiskey- Jameson, Bushmill, but havent explored much more...

Subtleties? Try Glenmorangie. Tullamore Dew is nice too, but hardly in the same class.

It's so wonderful they lowered the drinking age in AU...the lads who measure the quality of a drink by the hangover were missing out on so much. :-)

Jag...ever heard of a Nuclear Fizz? You pour grain alcohol over dry ice to make a slushie, then eat it with a spoon. while it's still smoking. I'm told you can get a positively gut-wrenching amount of alcohol down before it all melts at once in your stomach. :-)

jaguar · 07-20-2002, 09:46 PM

Its acltually legal to drink at any age here - just not to buy it or be caught with it in public. Same applies with smoking, except you're allowed to smoke in public.

Its pretty rare that i have more than a couple of drinks this year - too much school to spend a day in bed.

edit: you can eat dry ice?

elSicomoro · 07-20-2002, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by jaguar
you can eat dry ice?

I suppose you could, but at -109 degrees F, I wouldn't recommend it.

MaggieL · 07-20-2002, 10:08 PM

Definately do not eat dry ice. It's the slushy grain alky that's eaten. Probably can give you the Mother Of All Brain Freezes too.

In fact the entire stunt is very much something to watch *someone else* do.

I remeber walking home with some friends from a party during my (very brief) college career. One of the boys had had some Nuclear Fizz and was doing just fine...until he suddenly lost the ability to walk or stand up in the middle of a Philadelphia street on the Penn/Drexel campus. Good thing he had friends with him to get him back to his apt.

This is apparently a recycling of the name of another drink also from Philadelphia SF fandom of two decades earlier:

NUCLEAR FIZZ (Bob Pavlat) The fannish mixed drink. "Here's what a Fizz is, and how it came about. It is: 1 ½ shot gin, 1 shot
cointreau, 1 shot lemon or lime juice (and a lemon-lime mixture is better yet), 2 shots soda, 2 or 3 drops bitters. If you like them sweet, add more cointreau, and vary the amount of soda to suit your taste.
"And here's how it came about. At the PhilCon I, Chick Derry and I [Bob Pavlat] were drinking with Tom Hadley of the Buffalo Book Company... we liked the looks of Hadley's drink, and ordered one from the bartender. Hadley gave the bartender the formula... the Nuclear Fizz formula. I don't know where Hadley got the drink, but fandom obtained it from Hadley.
"As to its popularization: Derry and I remembered our drink (it was ours by right of discovery, if not invention)... shortly after the CinVention, Boggs wrote that Kerkhof and I had saved his life at the con by dragging him into the bar and feeding him a drink. I don't remember whether he used the name Nuclear Fizz [yes -- ed.] but that's what it was, and if he did that was the first appearance of the name in the fan press. The occasion of the drinking was the first time any fan other than Derry or I had silped a Fizz, Boggs and Kerkhof being introduced to it simultaneously.
"The drink was introduced to the rest of WSFA after our return from the CinVention... and various WSFA members had a small Fizz party during the 1952 PhilCon." From this, and the propagandizing of WSFAns, the Nuclear Fizz spread over fandom. "Two final facts: as far as I can recall, the name Nuclear Fizz is my creation. Silping was the invention of Lee Jacobs, who perfected and named the art." -- Bob Pavlat in SPACEWARP.
Tho not a needful part of the drink, Karen Anderson's custom of putting vegetable coloring in it as a warning measure is well advised. Variations include vodka instead of gin, making a Nuclear Fuze; vodka and gin, a Nuclear Fuss.

http://www.sff.net/people/diccon/NOVEMBER.HTM

07-16-2002, 06:06 AM	#20
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The Mrs and I like to swim the Cuervo Especial waters, usually in margarita form but sometimes just for sipping. Cheap beer, cheap whiskey, cheap gin and cheap wine are all fine but cheap tequila can't be good for yah. hmm I almost started a little ditty there... na its to early. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

07-20-2002, 09:46 PM	#26
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Its acltually legal to drink at any age here - just not to buy it or be caught with it in public. Same applies with smoking, except you're allowed to smoke in public. Its pretty rare that i have more than a couple of drinks this year - too much school to spend a day in bed. edit: you can eat dry ice? __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-20-2002, 10:08 PM	#28
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	Definately do not eat dry ice. It's the slushy grain alky that's eaten. Probably can give you the Mother Of All Brain Freezes too. In fact the entire stunt is very much something to watch someone else do. I remeber walking home with some friends from a party during my (very brief) college career. One of the boys had had some Nuclear Fizz and was doing just fine...until he suddenly lost the ability to walk or stand up in the middle of a Philadelphia street on the Penn/Drexel campus. Good thing he had friends with him to get him back to his apt. This is apparently a recycling of the name of another drink also from Philadelphia SF fandom of two decades earlier: NUCLEAR FIZZ (Bob Pavlat) The fannish mixed drink. "Here's what a Fizz is, and how it came about. It is: 1 ½ shot gin, 1 shot cointreau, 1 shot lemon or lime juice (and a lemon-lime mixture is better yet), 2 shots soda, 2 or 3 drops bitters. If you like them sweet, add more cointreau, and vary the amount of soda to suit your taste. "And here's how it came about. At the PhilCon I, Chick Derry and I [Bob Pavlat] were drinking with Tom Hadley of the Buffalo Book Company... we liked the looks of Hadley's drink, and ordered one from the bartender. Hadley gave the bartender the formula... the Nuclear Fizz formula. I don't know where Hadley got the drink, but fandom obtained it from Hadley. "As to its popularization: Derry and I remembered our drink (it was ours by right of discovery, if not invention)... shortly after the CinVention, Boggs wrote that Kerkhof and I had saved his life at the con by dragging him into the bar and feeding him a drink. I don't remember whether he used the name Nuclear Fizz [yes -- ed.] but that's what it was, and if he did that was the first appearance of the name in the fan press. The occasion of the drinking was the first time any fan other than Derry or I had silped a Fizz, Boggs and Kerkhof being introduced to it simultaneously. "The drink was introduced to the rest of WSFA after our return from the CinVention... and various WSFA members had a small Fizz party during the 1952 PhilCon." From this, and the propagandizing of WSFAns, the Nuclear Fizz spread over fandom. "Two final facts: as far as I can recall, the name Nuclear Fizz is my creation. Silping was the invention of Lee Jacobs, who perfected and named the art." -- Bob Pavlat in SPACEWARP. Tho not a needful part of the drink, Karen Anderson's custom of putting vegetable coloring in it as a warning measure is well advised. Variations include vodka instead of gin, making a Nuclear Fuze; vodka and gin, a Nuclear Fuss. http://www.sff.net/people/diccon/NOVEMBER.HTM __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

07-15-2002, 09:13 PM	#16
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I have never had scotch before...I should try it. I do like a good vodka tonic or gin and tonic...heavy on the sauce of course. I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER touch Jim Beam again after a particularly nasty experience in college.

07-15-2002, 09:57 PM	#18
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Backwoods margaritas, eh? One night, my friend's mom was out of town, and she allowed some of us to stay over. So, my friend decided we were going to have a strict "cheap beer" party. No A-B or Miller products allowed. The beers of choice that night were Hamm's, Olympia, Black Label, and Stag (a St. Louis favorite). Truth be told, I didn't feel too bad until I tried to eat something the next day. That cheap shit will do a number on ya.

07-15-2002, 10:29 PM	#19
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	yeah the margaritas were bad enough. the part that really sucked tho, was the next night we still had half a bottle of tequila but no more lemonade. whats a poor college student to do? shots, of course. oh well, i made my peace with the vile liquid, and now i can enjoy margaritas again, but in moderation. ~james

07-16-2002, 09:51 AM	#21
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Tequilla in moderation, in a good margarita-Fresh lime only....rocks, and salt, ya gotta have salt! but shots.....shheesh...It hits like no other spirit.

07-19-2002, 07:03 PM	#22
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I think I'm going to try that new Sauza drink tonight...might as well give 'em all an equal shot.

07-20-2002, 10:07 AM	#23
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Okay, so I bought the new Sauza drink, called Diablo. It's not bad...it definitely has a different taste than the others...it tastes more lemony. I think I like the Smirnoff/Skyy/Stoli variety better. Someone apparently was playing with the 6-pack, because there was one Captain Morgan Gold beverage in the pack. Blecch! That shit was nasty. I'm not really a fan of rum to begin with, and this just had too much of a rum taste to it. Although, I would imagine that it has no rum in it...otherwise, it couldn't be sold in a "beer" store here in PA.

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