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[Radar]

Robber barrons had nothing to do with capitalism. They were criminals, and the only difference that would happen with these criminals under socialism is that instead of being wealthy criminals, they'd be wealthy members of a totalitarian government.

[Rock Steady]

Originally Posted by Radar

Robber barrons had nothing to do with capitalism. They were criminals, and the only difference that would happen with these criminals under socialism is that instead of being wealthy criminals, they'd be wealthy members of a totalitarian government.

They WERE Capitalism. Some of their names are still with us today. Carneige Hall, Carneige-Mellon University: Andrew and Andrew. They were not the worst, but they had a spotted record. The american industrial revolution did great things for this country, but it was not without it's otrocities.

Jay Gould was a real sleaze ball.

Legacy

In his lifetime and for a century after, Gould had a firm reputation as the most unethical of the 19th century American businessmen known as robber barons. He routinely tested the boundaries of the law, finding ways to turn a situation in his favor when other businessmen might have settled on breaking even. He pioneered the practice, now commonplace, of declaring bankruptcy as a strategic maneuver. He had no opposition to using stock manipulation and insider trading (which were then legal but frowned upon) to build capital and to execute or prevent hostile takeover attempts. As a result, many contemporary businessmen did not trust Gould and often expressed contempt for his approach to business. Even so, John D. Rockefeller named him as the most skilled businessman he ever encountered.


List of businessmen who were called robber barons

* John Jacob Astor (real estate, fur)
* Andrew Carnegie (steel)
* Jay Cooke (finance)
* Daniel Drew (finance)
* James Fisk (finance)
* Henry Flagler (railroads)
* Henry Ford (automobile)
* Henry Clay Frick (steel)
* Jay Gould (finance, railroads)
* Edward Henry Harriman (railroads)
* Collis P. Huntington (railroads)
* James J. Hill (railroads)
* J. P. Morgan (banking)
* John D. Rockefeller (oil, the Standard Oil company)
* Leland Stanford (railroads)
* Cornelius Vanderbilt (railroads, shipping)

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Rock Steady

They WERE Capitalism. Some of their names are still with us today. Carneige Hall, Carneige-Mellon University: Andrew and Andrew. They were not the worst, but they had a spotted record. The american industrial revolution did great things for this country, but it was not without it's otrocities.

Jay Gould was a real sleaze ball.

Legacy

In his lifetime and for a century after, Gould had a firm reputation as the most unethical of the 19th century American businessmen known as robber barons. He routinely tested the boundaries of the law, finding ways to turn a situation in his favor when other businessmen might have settled on breaking even. He pioneered the practice, now commonplace, of declaring bankruptcy as a strategic maneuver. He had no opposition to using stock manipulation and insider trading (which were then legal but frowned upon) to build capital and to execute or prevent hostile takeover attempts. As a result, many contemporary businessmen did not trust Gould and often expressed contempt for his approach to business. Even so, John D. Rockefeller named him as the most skilled businessman he ever encountered.


List of businessmen who were called robber barons

* John Jacob Astor (real estate, fur)
* Andrew Carnegie (steel)
* Jay Cooke (finance)
* Daniel Drew (finance)
* James Fisk (finance)
* Henry Flagler (railroads)
* Henry Ford (automobile)
* Henry Clay Frick (steel)
* Jay Gould (finance, railroads)
* Edward Henry Harriman (railroads)
* Collis P. Huntington (railroads)
* James J. Hill (railroads)
* J. P. Morgan (banking)
* John D. Rockefeller (oil, the Standard Oil company)
* Leland Stanford (railroads)
* Cornelius Vanderbilt (railroads, shipping)

Your names and your claims are laughable. You clearly don't do too much reading, but if you can find someone to read something to you and then explain it to you, check out...

The Myth of the Robber Barons by Burton W. Folsom

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by Radar

Your names and your claims are laughable. You clearly don't do too much reading, but if you can find someone to read something to you and then explain it to you, check out...

The Myth of the Robber Barons by Burton W. Folsom

They were men who used the blood sweat and tears of immigrant workers to gain huge sums of money for themselves, and in the meantime thrust our country into widespread industrialization. But it was at the cost of many lives, and the suffering of many more. How many tons of steel, how many barrels of oil, how many miles of railroad track is one human worth? How about 10 people, 50, 100?


And Bri, if you have questions about transferring schools lemme know, I just went through that whole ordeal a couple weeks before classes began.

[russotto]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

How many tons of steel, how many barrels of oil, how many miles of railroad track is one human worth? How about 10 people, 50, 100?

I don't know. But I know the number must be finite. Or people would never get a damn thing done.

[Rock Steady]

Originally Posted by Radar

Robber barrons had nothing to do with capitalism. They were criminals, and the only difference that would happen with these criminals under socialism is that instead of being wealthy criminals, they'd be wealthy members of a totalitarian government.

The main problem with this country is the polarized arguments. Black and White. You're a capitalist or a socialist. You're left wing or right wing. You're religious or atheist.

That is bullshit. You're radar is broken because of passive aggressive listening. I've bought and sold companies, stock options, stock, real estate, Oil & Gas Partnerships, ...

Where in all that do you read socialist?

I really don't want my assets nationalized as they did to people in Hungary and other Soviet Sattelites.

????????

You make no sense.