I need some help

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche

Actually I've found a large portion of the Cellar to be very bright, well educated, and open minded. Just becasue their opinions differ from yours, and they may not have taken as many linguistics couses as recently as you, does not indicate anything to the contrary - It just emphasizes your narrow mindedness for not accepting that yours is not the only version of the truth.

I've been trying to put my perspective, the perspective of the level of linguistics I'm familiar with, across so that someone can say "Yes that makes sense from that perspective".

• Use of Ebonics/AAVE has negative social connotations.
• Ebonics/AAVE is used primarily by those of lower socio-economic levels.
• Ebonics/AAVE has a strong cultural and historic background.
• Ebonics/AAVE is as valid a language, from a theoretical linguistics perspective, as Standard American English or Hoch-Deutsch or Martian or whatever.

Those are the four points I wish everyone could understand. This thread got kind of out of hand, I'm not even sure where we started out, and I apologize for getting pissy and insulting folks.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by grant

• Use of Ebonics/AAVE has negative social connotations.
• Ebonics/AAVE is used primarily by those of lower socio-economic levels.
• Ebonics/AAVE has a strong cultural and historic background.
• Ebonics/AAVE is as valid a language, from a theoretical linguistics perspective, as Standard American English or Hoch-Deutsch or Martian or whatever.

Pretty much my point. You want to call it a language, go ahead. Just don't mind if I call you a dumb jerk for speaking it. THAT was my point!