Echelon

[jaguar]

Lol, on the encryption theme, Siemens is going to be releasing encryption phones in Germany too, but obviously both people need to have it. Cool step forward though.

Yes there has been allot of stuff about what the FBI can do now, well, what can you expect, your government doesn't give a fig for your privacy or rights. I mean my god, see the bill put up in one state to ban point and shoot arcade games in public places? Hmmmm gee i wonder if the first amendment is worth the paper it written on.