Ender's Game to become a screenplay...

Carnivean · 03-27-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

I too, fear the suckness.

Although, wow, if Ender's Game is finally maybe becoming sort of a movie, does that mean there's hope for Neuromancer and The Watchmen??

Those are two stories I hope will never be made into movies, simply because I don't have that much faith in Hollywood.

tyro · 03-31-2005, 09:34 AM

Well, Card did write the first version of the script, so hopefully David Benioff will not stray too far from that. Also, Happy Monkey's right. Card has been looking to make Ender's Game into a movie for a long time, and the primary reason that it hasn't happened yet is his reluctance to give up control. Seeing as how Ender's Game is the book he is most identified with, Card does't want the movie to be screwed up any more than we do.

glatt · 03-31-2005, 10:22 AM

I can't imagine "Ender's Game" the movie being anything but total crap.

Think about it, the book is about a bunch of kids interacting. Ender is only 6 years old! In the book, you can get inside their heads and understand why they do what they do. In a movie, you really can't do that so well. What you will end up seeing on the screen is a bunch of kids acting like grown-ups, with grown up motives and drama, etc. You would need a very talented group of kids to pull off the acting for this movie. There aren't very many talented young actors out there. The casting people for Star Wars looked long and hard for the kid that ended up being Darth Vader in Episode I. I don't know about you, but I'm not happy with the kid they found. That's a sampling of the best talent out there at that age. Can you imagine a kid like that carrying a movie?

Think of other movies with all-child casts: "The Goonies" kids are around 12-16 in age.
Bugsy Malone. Scott Baio was 14.
"Lord of the Flies" The actors are 14-15 years old.
"Stand By Me" Wil Wheaton was only 13 when he filmed this, but the movie was narrated by an adult Richard Dryfuss.

These were all teenagers, and some of the movies were still crap. A 6 year old actor can not carry a movie. Even a 10 year old portraying a 6 year old can not carry a movie. You would need to completely destroy the story and have Ender be a teenager. That's the only way to make the movie not suck.

tyro · 03-31-2005, 10:57 AM

Card is bumping the ages up a few years for the purposes of the movie. That said, I sympathise with your view. I've basically made the decision in my mind that the Ender's Game movie will be a separate entity from the book. I won't allow my view of one to contaminate the other. It's not that different from the distinction I've made concerning the last three Shadow books. In my mind, they belong to a different universe than the original Ender series. My hope is for a good movie, not necessarily a good adaptation of Ender's Game.

03-31-2005, 09:34 AM	#2
tyro on the hobble Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8	Well, Card did write the first version of the script, so hopefully David Benioff will not stray too far from that. Also, Happy Monkey's right. Card has been looking to make Ender's Game into a movie for a long time, and the primary reason that it hasn't happened yet is his reluctance to give up control. Seeing as how Ender's Game is the book he is most identified with, Card does't want the movie to be screwed up any more than we do. __________________ A closed mouth gathers no foot.

03-31-2005, 10:57 AM	#4
tyro on the hobble Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8	Card is bumping the ages up a few years for the purposes of the movie. That said, I sympathise with your view. I've basically made the decision in my mind that the Ender's Game movie will be a separate entity from the book. I won't allow my view of one to contaminate the other. It's not that different from the distinction I've made concerning the last three Shadow books. In my mind, they belong to a different universe than the original Ender series. My hope is for a good movie, not necessarily a good adaptation of Ender's Game. __________________ A closed mouth gathers no foot.

03-31-2005, 10:22 AM	#3
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I can't imagine "Ender's Game" the movie being anything but total crap. Think about it, the book is about a bunch of kids interacting. Ender is only 6 years old! In the book, you can get inside their heads and understand why they do what they do. In a movie, you really can't do that so well. What you will end up seeing on the screen is a bunch of kids acting like grown-ups, with grown up motives and drama, etc. You would need a very talented group of kids to pull off the acting for this movie. There aren't very many talented young actors out there. The casting people for Star Wars looked long and hard for the kid that ended up being Darth Vader in Episode I. I don't know about you, but I'm not happy with the kid they found. That's a sampling of the best talent out there at that age. Can you imagine a kid like that carrying a movie? Think of other movies with all-child casts: "The Goonies" kids are around 12-16 in age. Bugsy Malone. Scott Baio was 14. "Lord of the Flies" The actors are 14-15 years old. "Stand By Me" Wil Wheaton was only 13 when he filmed this, but the movie was narrated by an adult Richard Dryfuss. These were all teenagers, and some of the movies were still crap. A 6 year old actor can not carry a movie. Even a 10 year old portraying a 6 year old can not carry a movie. You would need to completely destroy the story and have Ender be a teenager. That's the only way to make the movie not suck.

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