Unilateral attacks

[jaguar]

*sighs*

You can't just ignore the "if you are not allowed or capable of having a real army" part. Those were the terms that ended the last war and if those terms are meaningless, the next war will be worse.

huh? Palastinaian governments shouldn't be given guns becasue they might shoot Isrelis with them?
Terms that ended the last war were obviously not good enough. I mean come on, we all know that no settlement that Israel has put on the table has a hope in hell of achieving lasting piece in the middle east because they are too goddamn pigheaded to actually give the people who used to live there before they were all forced out by the British a sliver of real land. Oh and expect them to have a few hundred fortified Jewish settlements in there but refuse to let back the people who were made refugees. One of those two, refugees or settlers has to go before a settlement will ever be possible and at least part of Jerusalem will need to be in Palestinian control. Until those terms on the table any Israeli "peace settlement" is smoke and mirrors to placate the international community and has no real substance.

Suicide bombing isn't an act of desperation. We explain it that way because that is the only explanation that fits for our culture, and some Palestinian spokesmen explain it that way because they feel it benefits their cause. But Arab & Persian culture is far different from ours. Suicide bombers believe they are killing evil people, benefitting their cause, and that they will gain salvation and eternal bliss through their act.

Its gone a little further than that, i've read three colums of late, all interviews with various palastinians, a female docotr, a milita member, an ordinary bloke. The hseer volumeof people willing to give thier lvies, and where they came form, some of these peopel were weeks short of finishing degrees and stuff reeks of desperation. The same desperation that has casued other freedom causes. I emna if you do daredevil ambushes you know are most likely going to end in death its no different, and yet people who have done that all though history are often exhalted for thier bravery, but when its a bomb strapped to you you're an evil terrorist.
right..

Griff - thats for a voice of moderation =) and if a debate risp arpat cellar i'd be pretty depressed it was so weak in the first place, not that i've been around much recently to know anyway.