Whatever happened to the McCarthurs and the Pattons

[iamthewalrus109]

I don't think taking it to these individuals will mean the use of nuclear armaments. Its as simple as following all available intel from the field, and recognizing tactics that work for this context. We are acting to slow and beuracratic to solve these issues. These people don't work on petitions and committees lets get real here. We need to work outside the box to defeat this enemy is all I'm saying. As far as UN standards, I'm not saying no standards, but new ones. Western style standards need to be applied to Western style nations. You can't apply them to non-tiethed terror organizations, its just ridiculous. You can't fight these people with the same tactics you use for countries with organized armies and a civilian population, for these people there one and the same. Same goes for borders of Islamic countries, they were drawn in the sand after WWII for the most part, hence part of issue there, these people see only the fidels and the infidels, that's it. Compartmentalizing is not going to work here. The nukes will be dropped without our help, we're just facilitators. Letting that cat out of the bag, it's only a matter of time before those missles fly, but in the meantime, we need to mount offensives in Iraq in a shorter period of time. Civilian casualites will be higher in this case, but there needs to be a comprimise, what's really acceptable here. I think the Iraqi people will turn against these fighters after Falluja, so there may be no need for this type of action to take place. Having said that though, if they set up shop someplace else, we need to take action sooner, that's it. We're going to get called on it anyway, might as well try to get some of these bastards.

-Walrus

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by iamthewalrus109

You can't fight these people with the same tactics you use for countries with organized armies and a civilian population, for these people there one and the same.

THEN WHY ARE WE THERE? Our only excuse for being there is to help the civilian population. If we can blithely classify them as one and the same as the enemy army, or as expendable as long as we get some actual enemy, then we have lost any justification for being there at all.